Ceiling Rose Wiring - 3 core plus earth ?

[Steve TJ]

Advice needed,

Removed a ceiling rose and the cables must have been loose as they all popped out. Connected up all the cables apart from the grey cable. My PIR light outside is now not working without this grey cable connected into one of the blocks which is fed off the same switch bank on the wall. I believe the grey cable should go into the live brown block. Any help appreciated.

 

[westward10]

Can you show a pic this may help but you may need an electrician.

 

[Wilko]

Hi - unfortunately there are several ways this could've been wired up, sorry.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Removed a ceiling rose and the cables must have been loose as they all popped out

what in your hand with a screwdriver never .test equipment is in order .Is Kentucky chicken near you I mean sparky chick .just wait and her lady ship will be along any moment.

 

[Steve TJ]

Can you show a pic this may help but you may need an electrician.

How do I attach a pic in here only url option

 

[Steve TJ]

here is the block as it stands

 

[Baddegg]

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[Steve TJ]

I have shown 2 sparky's and both are unsure what that grey cable is for. But like I stated earlier the outside PIR light is not working now so must be linked to that

 

[ferg]

I could guess at the most likely correct hole for it.

If it were me I'd want to see the other end of it to make sure.

If your wiring is falling out of the terminals I'd suggest getting it checked.

 

[westward10]

Was the PIR light ever switched or was it permanently left to its own devices.

 

[buzzlightyear]

If your wiring is falling out of the terminals I'd suggest getting it checked.

the ladder is on the floor he's hanging on the cable waiting for a reply .

 

[123]

Was the PIR light ever switched or was it permanently left to its own devices.

Not even a mention about the earth sleeving? My my my...

 

[Steve TJ]

The Pir has an override switch on the wall

 

[westward10]

Think you are going to need an electrician as from a distance we would be guessing.

 

[Steve TJ]

Fair play there are a bunch of comedians in here (polite for a holes) and some very helpful, thank you

 

[Steve TJ]

I could guess at the most likely correct hole for it.

If it were me I'd want to see the other end of it to make sure.

If your wiring is falling out of the terminals I'd suggest getting it checked.

New build cowboys i think

 

[buzzlightyear]

Fair play there are a bunch of comedians in here (polite for a holes) and some very helpful, thank you

you are welcome please call again .

 

[Steve TJ]

I could guess at the most likely correct hole for it.

If it were me I'd want to see the other end of it to make sure.

If your wiring is falling out of the terminals I'd suggest getting it checked.

New build cowboys i think

Not even a mention about the earth sleeving? My my my...

only connected temporary until I can work out where that damn grey cable go's and then will tidy

 

[Baddegg]

Fair play there are a bunch of comedians in here (polite for a holes) and some very helpful, thank you

They only just warming up mate,wait till you ask em some serious stuff....

 

[123]

Fair play there are a bunch of comedians in here (polite for a holes) and some very helpful, thank you

Top tip. Take a photo before you start.

The fact it has an override switch changes the original question a bit.

 

[pirate]

new builds and aholes and sarcasm...I love it!

if you don't...
Please leave

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[buzzlightyear]

They only just warming up mate,wait till you ask em some serious stuff

now your talking ,lets get it on .

 

[telectrix]

my thoughtd would be the grey conductor should be sleeved blue and go in with the other blues. this is without seeing it in persson, so might not be right. the resultsd would be>>>>>>>

1. it works.
2 it don'twork.
3. it goes bang.

if option 2 or 3 fazes you, call an electrician.

 

[littlespark]

tel beats me to it every time.

Every electrician on here will say the grey is 90% sure a neutral and should be in with the blues....

HOWEVER...

We don't know where that 3 core goes. We don't know what's at the other end. We are working half-blind.

If our assumptions are correct, there will be power at your PIR on the live, but without a neutral it wont work.
That means that if you think its safe to take off the wall and have a look at it, it isn't.

I'm wondering where the switch wire is for the ceiling rose you removed? One of the 2 twins there?

 

[mossep]

Grey goes with the blue

 

[buzzlightyear]

Grey goes with the blue

he will be grey and blue if he makes a mistake.dead .

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[buzzlightyear]

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love it !god has started to wave the big stick.

 

['mr2'gd4u]

Seriously check where that grey is going on the pir before doing anything else. Can't just be guessing.. Unless you are a little cold and could do with a fire to warm you up...
Edit sorry its 2 days old, didn't realise

 

[Timbo]

My 2p worth: (from what the OP said)
3c+e goes to switch, brown live to switch, blue neutral to switch, black sw live to light.
PIR light fed from switch.
Any bids?

 

[chris gray]

I have shown 2 sparky's and both are unsure what that grey cable is for. But like I stated earlier the outside PIR light is not working now so must be linked to that

I’m not right sure how your 2 sparkies didn’t sort this straight away?

 

['mr2'gd4u]

I’m not right sure how your 2 sparkies didn’t sort this straight away?

Coz they weren't sparkies...?