Stroma Certification Scheme 1st Stroma assessment

Pete999 · Sep 18, 2018

Dillb said:
Thats a good one

the definition of governing - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/governing

Marti · Sep 18, 2018

Murdoch said:
17th edition exam and books or 18th?

Serious question

Appreciate the clarity. I have both versions, reg's and OSG. 17th is well tagged. The big blue book still need some attention.

Test circuits are lighting and sockets on a mini-CCU and TT earth. All the T&E is in plastic Kopex and glanded. SWA earthed at the far (out building) end, not the house CCU. SWA is 200mm above ground, attached to the concrete fence posts; can't see the fence being a "permanent structure".

...Tea bags are Yorkshire Gold and biscuits are choccy.

HappyHippyDad · Sep 18, 2018

Fitzy said:
When you say Health & Safety Sheet and Risk Assessment, what do we actually need? Is it just a basic H&S sheet or an electrician specific sheet and the risk assessment, is that for the work you’re showing them or a genetic risk assessment guide?

Here are mine. I realise they don't look very professional but Stroma are happy with them. As a small sole trader the only time they come out is to show the assessor once a year.

-Matt · Sep 18, 2018

On a similar subject...

I have my Niceic Domestic installers annual assessment in two weeks time.

My problem is i have done hardly any domestic work in the last 6 months, as its been mostly commercial. Most of the domestic has been little filler jobs.

So i am struggling to find a domestic job i can take the assessor to, where the home owner will also be at the time.

Does anyone know if i can show a commercial job on a domestic installers assessment?
Im guessing no!

Im seriously concidering ditching them now i do little Domestic, but seems they have already had my £500....

Deleted account · Sep 18, 2018

My assesment was yesterday. Nic. One of my jobs was commercial. No problems.

As for stroma. They seem to do there assessments over the phone so should be easy.

Fitzy · Sep 18, 2018

happyhippydad said:
Here are mine. I realise they don't look very professional but Stroma are happy with them. As a small sole trader the only time they come out is to show the assessor once a year.

Thanks happhippydad, went to the Link on your examples and if I’ve read & understood the hse.gov webpage correctly I don’t need to complete either form as I don’t employ 5 or more people, in fact it’s only Moir. But I’ll still create an editable PDF in case I’m asked for them.

rolyberkin · Sep 18, 2018

Pete999 said:
Obviously not a large enough envelope Mate, Law unto themselves these people, trouble is they hold the upper hand.

Stroma are simply 100% by the rules, a shame some of the other schemes aren't as far as I am concerned!

markc123 · Sep 20, 2018

Murdoch said:
The Stroma assessment is far stricter than the Elecsa assessment

Make sure your sample jobs are 100% spot on and your certificates are also prefect...

Not sure I agree here Murdoch.

I’ve been elecsa , niceic and napit in my time and they’re all embarrassing. The questions they ask are so blooming basic, a drunk monkey could pass.

It would be nice, if just once an assessor asks me something relevant but niche e.g something that’s not the norm, but could quite likely raise its head on any given job.

Examples would be:
1) Lightning Protection
2) Installation of cables outside zones (non bathroom)
3) Part M
4) Emergency Lighting
5) Non-Copper CPCs

None of the above is relatively difficult to either understand or follow; but I’m getting increasingly tired of so called “electricians” that know how to wire a socket, a light and maybe just maybe underfloor heating at a push. The basics of house bashing. Give them anything outside of this and they’re completely useless.

Marti · Sep 21, 2018

markc123 said:
I’ve been elecsa , niceic and napit in my time and they’re all embarrassing. The questions they ask are so blooming basic, a drunk monkey could pass.
.........
The basics of house bashing. Give them anything outside of this and they’re completely useless.

It's about being inquisitive I suspect. Recently I repaired a cement mixer for a landscaper. That led to "can you 'ave a look at the concrete breaker" and so on; as much for my own interest as the payment. Long may such learning opportunities continue.

By the same score, sparks who take on a job they haven't prepared for / can't handle, get paid and then call for the answer - yea right!

Taylortwocities · Sep 21, 2018

@Tim collins Have you had your assessment yet? How did it go?

Tim collins · Sep 21, 2018

Taylortwocities said:
@Tim collins Have you had your assessment yet? How did it go?

Not yet got it in a couple of weeks

Marti · Sep 21, 2018

Taylortwocities said:
@Tim collins Have you had your assessment yet? How did it go?

Thank for askin' Tim,
It's the 3rd of October. Brick workshop, CCU, two circuits - T&E in plastic Kopex and TT earth. IP rated light RCBO at the house end.

Clever log-in name you have Taylor

Marti · Sep 21, 2018

Good luckTim,
Mines's the 3rd of October. Brick workshop, CCU, two circuits - T&E in plastic Kopex and TT earth. IP rated light RCBO at the house end.

Clever log-in name you have Taylor

Tim collins · Sep 21, 2018

Taylortwocities said:
@Tim collins Have you had your assessment yet? How did it go?

Not yet got it in a couple of weeks

Marti said:
Good luckTim,
Mines's the 3rd of October. Brick workshop, CCU, two circuits - T&E in plastic Kopex and TT earth. IP rated light RCBO at the house end.

Clever log-in name you have Taylor

didnt realise you had yours comming up aswell, good luck to you too

MDJ · Sep 21, 2018

Tim collins said:
Hi everyone got my 1st assessment coming up with Stroma / a governing body just wondered if anyone had any tips with regards the whole process as I’d imagine I’m feeling the same way everyone else did when they and their 1st assessment! Any tips will be appreciated

Thanks

Make a cuppa and make sure the Cheque clears and it will be no hassle at all, a breeze in the park.

Octopus · Sep 21, 2018

markc123 said:
Examples would be:
1) Lightning Protection
2) Installation of cables outside zones (non bathroom)
3) Part M
4) Emergency Lighting
5) Non-Copper CPCs

None of the above is relatively difficult to either understand or follow; but I’m getting increasingly tired of so called “electricians” that know how to wire a socket, a light and maybe just maybe underfloor heating at a push. The basics of house bashing. Give them anything outside of this and they’re completely useless.

Hum......... wishful thinking

But seriously ALL sparks need a general understanding of the building regs

I think the schemes focus on the wrong things .................

Marti · Oct 4, 2018

That was interesting! Can't comment on whatever the experience of others was in their CPS assessment but I can say an initial interview with a Stroma was "challenging". Questions ranging from VR insulated cable to the 18th and everywhere between. Every document scutinised and decision questioned. A few non-comm's to address and, hopefully, it's a positive but nothing is certain yet. SO....Are Stroma setting a standard or are the others ticking boxes?

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