18th Edition Full Course Or Update

[Sparky2017]

Hi
I took the 17th edition back in 2010 what course should I take, update or full course.
People I talk to tell me the update course but when I read through the websites it tells me full course, people who have done the course just booked the update.
Any advice would be great.
Thanks

 

[suffolkspark]

You are only elligable to do the short cource if youve completed your nvq within the last 3 years i believe.

 

[Octopus]

Speak to different providers.... some seem to allow you to just take the exam ....

 

[Fitzy]

I was told you could only do the 18th update course if you already hold 17th and amd 3 qualification.

 

[Pete999]

I was told you could only do the 18th update course if you already hold 17th and amd 3 qualification.

Hi Fitzy, i'm sure the Course providers wouldn't worry what qualifications you already hold, as long as you pay for the course upfront, that's all they would be worried about.

 

[Adam W]

You can only do the update if you took the 17th edition exam to the latest amendment. Since you took the 17th exam in 2010 and amendment 3 came out in 2015 you'd need to do the full course.

 

[Sparky2017]

You can only do the update if you took the 17th edition exam to the latest amendment. Since you took the 17th exam in 2010 and amendment 3 came out in 2015 you'd need to do the full course.

Hi
Yes I have to agree but sparks who do not have amendment 3 are still booking the update course.
This course is nothing more than a money scam.
Thanks for all your replies.

 

[Tim Evans]

You don't "have" to do either a full or an update course, you can choose to just buy the book, self-study, and then sit the exam, that's what I did.
Tim

 

[oracle]

You don't "have" to do either a full or an update course, you can choose to just buy the book, self-study, and then sit the exam, that's what I did.
Tim

That's what I've been doing since my first exam, the 16th.

 

[BruvDunk]

Theres also an online course thats a tad cheaper and may be better for busy folks as can be done when suits at whichever pace is comfortable. I guess it still hints at areas that are question heavy...

 

[Pete999]

Theres also an online course thats a tad cheaper and may be better for busy folks as can be done when suits at whichever pace is comfortable. I guess it still hints at areas that are question heavy...

Paul, in all honesty, if you can navigate your way through BS 7671 you should be OK, unfortunately, your profile is incomplete, so I /we have no idea of your competencies in the electrical field, by all means just do the exam if you feel confident, if not, the the course and exam is the way forward, have no experience of the online course, so can't help in that area, good luck anyway.

 

[BruvDunk]

Paul, in all honesty, if you can navigate your way through BS 7671 you should be OK, unfortunately, your profile is incomplete, so I /we have no idea of your competencies in the electrical field, by all means just do the exam if you feel confident, if not, the the course and exam is the way forward, have no experience of the online course, so can't help in that area, good luck anyway.

Just joined so getting a feel of how this site works, started now filling in some details..

 

[northstar]

You don't "have" to do either a full or an update course, you can choose to just buy the book, self-study, and then sit the exam, that's what I did.
Tim

Hi Tim where did you do the exam only and how much did it cost? Thanks

 

[Tim Evans]

Hi Tim where did you do the exam only and how much did it cost? Thanks

Hi,
I sat it at a place in Antrim, Co.Down called Training Solutions, it wasn't cheap at over £150, but I was able to choose a time that suited me, and I was the only one sitting the exam at that time. It may have been cheaper if I had booked in when there was a class-full also doing the exam.

Tim

 

[northstar]

Hi,
I sat it at a place in Antrim, Co.Down called Training Solutions, it wasn't cheap at over £150, but I was able to choose a time that suited me, and I was the only one sitting the exam at that time. It may have been cheaper if I had booked in when there was a class-full also doing the exam.

Tim

Thanks Tim. A bit far to travel that mate from Manchester.

 

[suffolkspark]

Not quite sure why ive got a dissagree essex, heres a screenshot of the requirements to get on the EAL 1day update course



Note you can also get away with it if you did the 17th AM3 update but i would think people updated to the 17th long before that and then there was no requirement to update again to am3

 

[Nigel]

Youncan takenwhatever

Not quite sure why ive got a dissagree essex, heres a screenshot of the requirements to get on the EAL 1day update course

View attachment 44683

I disageed because I can categorically confirm that is not the case. My guys were all not Am 3 and all sat the one day course. I am not Am3 and have also booked the one day course for next month.

 

[suffolkspark]

Perhaps entry requirements for the C&G version differ?

 

[Nigel]

Perhaps entry requirements for the C&G version differ?

Nope. All C&G courses.

It is a load of crap and I was told that I cannot book the one day course. I said they were talking rubbish and the three day course is completely OTT and I will be doing the one day course. They said the risk is with me then. No issues there.

 

[Andy78]

Whatever length course you take depends on the training centre, is the long and the short of it.
If a place wants all its candidates to sit a three day course that is their choice and their business decision.

I hold the 17th to amd1 and will not be sitting any course, just taking the exam only, as arranged with a local training centre.

 

[northstar]

Whatever length course you take depends on the training centre, is the long and the short of it.
If a place wants all its candidates to sit a three day course that is their choice and their business decision.

I hold the 17th to amd1 and will not be sitting any course, just taking the exam only, as arranged with a local training centre.

Hi Andy where are you doing the exam at ? Thanks

 

[Nigel]

Whatever length course you take depends on the training centre, is the long and the short of it.
If a place wants all its candidates to sit a three day course that is their choice and their business decision.

I hold the 17th to amd1 and will not be sitting any course, just taking the exam only, as arranged with a local training centre.

My guys told me the one day course is literally just the exam.

 

[Andy78]

My guys told me the one day course is literally just the exam.

The exam is only 2 hours max ? What did they do the rest of the day ?
I assumed a one day would go over the changes only whilst a full course would go through the whole regs.

 

[Nigel]

The exam is only 2 hours max ? What did they do the rest of the day ?
I assumed a one day would go over the changes only whilst a full course would go through the whole regs.

I will ask again tomorrow but it was something like 10:00 registration then 12:00-14:00 exam. 15:00 results.

 

[Andy78]

I will ask again tomorrow but it was something like 10:00 registration then 12:00-14:00 exam. 15:00 results.

Few coffees in between, I can see how there wouldn't be much time for anything meaningful in the way of content.

 

[northstar]

The exam is only 2 hours max ? What did they do the rest of the day ?
I assumed a one day would go over the changes only whilst a full course would go through the whole regs.

Long lunch break

 

[Nigel]

Few coffees in between, I can see how there wouldn't be much time for anything meaningful in the way of content.

I will double check tomorrow but I thought as you did and they called me in a panic expecting some tuition which never occured.

 

[Adam W]

Nope. All C&G courses.

It is a load of crap and I was told that I cannot book the one day course. I said they were talking rubbish and the three day course is completely OTT and I will be doing the one day course. They said the risk is with me then. No issues there.

They probably made an exception for you because none of the tutors could face the prospect of 10 weeks of you sitting at the back of the room shaking your head and disagreeing with everything on principle.

 

[Nigel]

So I did check today and apparently there is about two hours of going through the changes and then the exam.

 

[b-spark]

I've just passed the 18th today via a one day update.
My quals are 17th amd 1. I had no issue with the exam, nor did the centre with me not being amd 3. TBH I only looked at the book yesterday as it was lent to me. I felt the update course was concise enough to pass.
So dont worry.

 

[Octopus]

I think this stuff about the AMD3 is a red herring.....

If you have the 17th , then the next step is the 18th ...........if the candidate wants to "risk" the 1 day course/ exam or exam only, surely its up to them.

 

[Nigel]

I think this stuff about the AMD3 is a red herring.....

If you have the 17th , then the next step is the 18th ...........if the candidate wants to "risk" the 1 day course/ exam or exam only, surely its up to them.

Agreed. They put that in there to make a few quid to those that will just take things as read.

Three days is a joke for a practicing electrician.

 

[northstar]

I've just passed the 18th today via a one day update.
My quals are 17th amd 1. I had no issue with the exam, nor did the centre with me not being amd 3. TBH I only looked at the book yesterday as it was lent to me. I felt the update course was concise enough to pass.
So dont worry.

I've just passed the 18th today via a one day update.
My quals are 17th amd 1. I had no issue with the exam, nor did the centre with me not being amd 3. TBH I only looked at the book yesterday as it was lent to me. I felt the update course was concise enough to pass.
So dont worry.

Where did you do the exam at? Thanks

 

[Octopus]

Three days is a joke for a practicing electrician.

As well as being very expensive , its 3 days you won't be earning (if you are SE) - so the cost will be considerable

 

[Nigel]

As well as being very expensive , its 3 days you won't be earning (if you are SE) - so the cost will be considerable

Agree again.

 

[Octopus]

Agree again.

very worrying!

But this fact about being SE doesn't figure with the idiots making these decisions ...

Its a bit like saying nobody can take their driving test without having 50 lessons first ..............

 

[Adam W]

very worrying!

But this fact about being SE doesn't figure with the idiots making these decisions ...

Its a bit like saying nobody can take their driving test without having 50 lessons first ..............

... Or fly an aeroplane solo without 40 hours flying time...
The regs exam is an exam on looking things up in a book; the book could be on anything, it doesn't prove that any knowledge of the subject has been retained by the candidate. If you've had to sit through 10 weeks of hearing about it in a classroom there's a good chance some of it will have sunk in.

Go on Neil, you know where the button is.

 

[b-spark]

Where did you do the exam at? Thanks

A place near Rochdale in the north west. £220 all in. I can find you a contact if your local to it.

 

[northstar]

I've just passed the 18th today via a one day update.
My quals are 17th amd 1. I had no issue with the exam, nor did the centre with me not being amd 3. TBH I only looked at the book yesterday as it was lent to me. I felt the update course was concise enough to pass.
So dont worry.

I've just passed the 18th today via a one day update.
My quals are 17th amd 1. I had no issue with the exam, nor did the centre with me not being amd 3. TBH I only looked at the book yesterday as it was lent to me. I felt the update course was concise enough to pass.
So dont worry.

Where did you do the exam at? Thanks

A place near Rochdale in the north west. £220 all in. I can find you a contact if your local to it.

 

[northstar]

Yes that would be good. Thanks again

 

[MFS Electrical]

I was told you could only do the 18th update course if you already hold 17th and amd 3 qualification.

Depending on who is doing your training Exam this is correct most colleges that are doing the 18th up here want a certificate to say you’ve done the amendment 3 course to let you do the update

 

[BruvDunk]

Sparky ninja doing a free course on you tube . Watch them and try and grab an exam only. May be an option ?