6X4 Garden Shed

[Guest77]

I have contacted a Scheme with regard to becomming a Part P Electrician, I have my 17th and My pat testing one day certificate, now a Scheme who I won't mention for legal reasons has suggested if I can produce a Certificate for an installion and I pay the 400 Sobs they will have me on board.

Okay my plan, I have bought a Garden shed, it is 6 ft by 4 ft and is 20 foot from my house, I intend to dig a 1 ft deep trench and install a 6mm2 twin and earth cable inside a water plastic waste pipe to protect it from a socket in my Kitchen to the shed. I will install a RCD fused switch spur in the Kitchen off a socket which is on the ring and connect the twin and earth from there.

I will disconnect the earth at the shed end and install a earth rod into the garden and convert to a TT system, inside the shed I intend to install one plastic double socket and then a switched spur with a 3 amp fuse for the light, I may plug a lawn mower into the socket. Now my intial thoughts are all will be fine, however there is a metal window in the shed, do I need to install a 10mm2 earth wire to bond this? I have been told yes and no by different friends, I need to get this right, thanks for your help, all comments are welcomed and I won't listen to any nasty posts, please be kind, I am new.

 

[ipf]

wind up Mark?

 

[Thefailsafe2012]

I have contacted a Scheme with regard to becomming a Part P Electrician, I have my 17th and My pat testing one day certificate, now a Scheme who I won't mention for legal reasons has suggested if I can produce a Certificate for an installion and I pay the 400 Sobs they will have me on board.

Okay my plan, I have bought a Garden shed, it is 6 ft by 4 ft and is 20 foot from my house, I intend to dig a 1 ft deep trench and install a 6mm2 twin and earth cable inside a water plastic waste pipe to protect it from a socket in my Kitchen to the shed. I will install a RCD fused switch spur in the Kitchen off a socket which is on the ring and connect the twin and earth from there.

I will disconnect the earth at the shed end and install a earth rod into the garden and convert to a TT system, inside the shed I intend to install one plastic double socket and then a switched spur with a 3 amp fuse for the light, I may plug a lawn mower into the socket. Now my intial thoughts are all will be fine, however there is a metal window in the shed, do I need to install a 10mm2 earth wire to bond this? I have been told yes and no by different friends, I need to get this right, thanks for your help, all comments are welcomed and I won't listen to any nasty posts, please be kind, I am new.

Buy paraffin light
buy petrol lawnmower

no fuss no muss!

 

[plugsandsparks]

Replace metal window with a piece of Perspex and wooden beads, also use crazy foam on ends of "duct" to keep the rodents out. I assume you have the T&E spare as 2.5 would be cheaper and actually make the lights brighter.

 

[Geordie Spark]

wind up?

I can't believe you had to ask!!

This is Our Mark of MDF Enterprises we're talking about here! :laugh:

 

[ferg]

No need for the rcd fused spur, just use an extension lead with built in rcd.

Put lights on a 3Amp plug and plug that into extension.

If any more sockets are needed just buy another extension lead.

Remember 2 RCD's in series is bad so 2nd extension lead must not have RCD.


Hope this helps your cheque clear with the scam.

 

[ipf]

I can't believe you had to ask!!

This is Our Mark of MDF Enterprises we're talking about here! :laugh:

Geord......why d'ya think it got a like?

 

[Geordie Spark]

Geord......why d'ya think it got a like?

It's cos I isn't very well

 

[ipf]

It's cos I isn't very well

Rough day or what, pal?

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I have contacted a Scheme with regard to becomming a Part P Electrician, I have my 17th and My pat testing one day certificate, now a Scheme who I won't mention for legal reasons has suggested if I can produce a Certificate for an installion and I pay the 400 Sobs they will have me on board.

Okay my plan, I have bought a Garden shed, it is 6 ft by 4 ft and is 20 foot from my house, I intend to dig a 1 ft deep trench and install a 6mm2 twin and earth cable inside a water plastic waste pipe to protect it from a socket in my Kitchen to the shed. I will install a RCD fused switch spur in the Kitchen off a socket which is on the ring and connect the twin and earth from there.

I will disconnect the earth at the shed end and install a earth rod into the garden and convert to a TT system, inside the shed I intend to install one plastic double socket and then a switched spur with a 3 amp fuse for the light, I may plug a lawn mower into the socket. Now my intial thoughts are all will be fine, however there is a metal window in the shed, do I need to install a 10mm2 earth wire to bond this? I have been told yes and no by different friends, I need to get this right, thanks for your help, all comments are welcomed and I won't listen to any nasty posts, please be kind, I am new.

That's way over the top in regards to safety. Look at the standards of installation in India and Asia. Not too many get killed there do they?

 

[Pete999]

I have contacted a Scheme with regard to becomming a Part P Electrician, I have my 17th and My pat testing one day certificate, now a Scheme who I won't mention for legal reasons has suggested if I can produce a Certificate for an installion and I pay the 400 Sobs they will have me on board.

Okay my plan, I have bought a Garden shed, it is 6 ft by 4 ft and is 20 foot from my house, I intend to dig a 1 ft deep trench and install a 6mm2 twin and earth cable inside a water plastic waste pipe to protect it from a socket in my Kitchen to the shed. I will install a RCD fused switch spur in the Kitchen off a socket which is on the ring and connect the twin and earth from there.

I will disconnect the earth at the shed end and install a earth rod into the garden and convert to a TT system, inside the shed I intend to install one plastic double socket and then a switched spur with a 3 amp fuse for the light, I may plug a lawn mower into the socket. Now my intial thoughts are all will be fine, however there is a metal window in the shed, do I need to install a 10mm2 earth wire to bond this? I have been told yes and no by different friends, I need to get this right, thanks for your help, all comments are welcomed and I won't listen to any nasty posts, please be kind, I am new.

Nuffin better to do then mate??? lol

 

[GMES]

I have contacted a Scheme with regard to becomming a Part P Electrician, I have my 17th and My pat testing one day certificate, now a Scheme who I won't mention for legal reasons has suggested if I can produce a Certificate for an installion and I pay the 400 Sobs they will have me on board.

Okay my plan, I have bought a Garden shed, it is 6 ft by 4 ft and is 20 foot from my house, I intend to dig a 1 ft deep trench and install a 6mm2 twin and earth cable inside a water plastic waste pipe to protect it from a socket in my Kitchen to the shed. I will install a RCD fused switch spur in the Kitchen off a socket which is on the ring and connect the twin and earth from there.

I will disconnect the earth at the shed end and install a earth rod into the garden and convert to a TT system, inside the shed I intend to install one plastic double socket and then a switched spur with a 3 amp fuse for the light, I may plug a lawn mower into the socket. Now my intial thoughts are all will be fine, however there is a metal window in the shed, do I need to install a 10mm2 earth wire to bond this? I have been told yes and no by different friends, I need to get this right, thanks for your help, all comments are welcomed and I won't listen to any nasty posts, please be kind, I am new.

Are you saying that the socket in the kitchen is a bit of a Bully when it comes to twin and earth cable, if so I should have a word with it Mike

 

[rapparee]

That's way over the top in regards to safety. Look at the standards of installation in India and Asia. Not too many get killed there do they?

We recently had an english technical sales rep over to look at a machine. When we were having our lunch, he was showing us photos of the different ****ries he had visited. Bahrain was particularly rough. There was a piece of flex stripped back and shoved into the pins of a socket. (amid a multitude of other things).

 

[rapparee]

Lol i spelt countries wrong

 

[Guest77]

Lol i spelt countries wrong

Well you are Irish :biggrin:

 

[telectrix]

@OP. if the shed is metal framed, then yo're doing the right thing by installing a TT rod thingy. something about the supplires return cable nor returning due to pikeys nicking copper. gives that metal skin a nice tingly feel.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Rough day or what, pal?

Most of them are just now.

Tonight's good though - Tidyboiler has entered the building!!! :welcome::hurray:

 

[trev]

Since his post has been fully answered I'll try for some help.
I've similarly done a week long course and am fully qualified although I don't have this Pat's testing course, I don't know who she is either so any help on that would be great. I have got a P part though as it was included in the £6000 I paid to the training people. I'd ring them but I don't want to look stupid to them so thought I'd ask you friendly lot.
I've been consulted by a customer who wants power to an outbuilding which is an unspecified distance away from the house. I also should add that the gear that's going into this outbuilding hasn't been decided either. I reckon a 4mm flat cable with an earth a live and a neutral should do the job. I think the outbuilding will be brick built but couldn't swear to that just now.
I plan on putting an reduced current device on each end of the cable as I think it will increase safety.
Any help available please? I also need to get this right as I'm using this job to get my P part membership off this

 

[rapparee]

Well you are Irish :biggrin:

At least i know how to wire a shed :beatnik2:

 

[trev]

Glouscester Nil, Ireland 1

 

[7029 dave]

You must be bored Mike. lol

 

[Guest77]

Glouscester Nil, Ireland 1

The Oxford English Dictionary 1- Geordie Land 0 PMSL

 

[trev]

What did I get wrong Mike?

 

[Geordie Spark]

The Oxford English Dictionary 1- Geordie Land 0 PMSL

Thanks Mark bony lad.

I'll gerim telt 'n' hae 'im writin' it oot propa lyke a thoosand times.

 

[Guest77]

Gloucester not Glouscester lol

 

[trev]

Wasn't sure if you'd spot it but you did.

 

[telectrix]

yup. there's no "s" in gloucester. there's bugger all else either.

 

[Guest77]

Good challenge for me that Trev, I am as thick as two short planks usually haha.

 

[telectrix]

makes me think of the great one... dylan thomas. under milk wood. the village was called "llareggub", which is bugger all reversed. what a poet!.

 

[ferg]

Since his post has been fully answered I'll try for some help.
I've similarly done a week long course and am fully qualified although I don't have this Pat's testing course, I don't know who she is either so any help on that would be great. I have got a P part though as it was included in the £6000 I paid to the training people. I'd ring them but I don't want to look stupid to them so thought I'd ask you friendly lot.
I've been consulted by a customer who wants power to an outbuilding which is an unspecified distance away from the house. I also should add that the gear that's going into this outbuilding hasn't been decided either. I reckon a 4mm flat cable with an earth a live and a neutral should do the job. I think the outbuilding will be brick built but couldn't swear to that just now.
I plan on putting an reduced current device on each end of the cable as I think it will increase safety.
Any help available please? I also need to get this right as I'm using this job to get my P part membership off this

I refer you to my previous post for descrimination of devices.

I think you are being ripped off by your training provider as PAT testing is usually included.

It's actually not that complicated.

Just hit print and apply the label.

If done correctly you can make good money.

A lot of people make the mistake of testing each item before applying the label.

This just slows you down.

It will pass anyway.

You can tell just by looking at the plug as you apply the label.

 

[Slowhand]

I've also paid my 400 and am having my shed wiring assessment next week. My friend who is a time served spark ( Pentonville college of secure education ) looked at my work and told me the rcd in the shed was good but a ---- in the kitchen was a better way to go as the assessor would spend more time looking at that than he would the socket in the shed
I didn't do milfs at college but my friend told me they are easy to fix as long as they are screwed or nailed you'll be ok.
Is there a maximum distance they have to be from the fuse box? He told me to look in my regs book under selection and erection but Ive only got the readers digest guide to shed wiring and the last three pages are missing.
Can anyone help?