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The worst thing about this is that Building Control signed off, they should also be held to account.
probably after signing a receipt for a brown envelope, ......full.....The worst thing about this is that Building Control signed off, they should also be held to account.
You know how the process works. Following a cursory inspection, all that BC wants is the electronic notification from the electricians’ CPS.The worst thing about this is that Building Control signed off, they should also be held to account.
And I noticed this underneath that story......
New-build house complaints rise - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47826166
I can speak for first hand experience having breifly had spells working on Taylor wimpey sites over the years......too much of a 'get it in quick and get out' attitude!
I'm sure if the 'future' Tennant's had a recording of how quickly their electrics/plumbing was shot in etc they would think twice about parting with their money.
I was recently asked to quote for some brand new build houses , I priced tight as I could to do a half decent job.
I was told I was far too expensive and the developer had found a firm who will do a 3 bed house for £1400 all in.
To me this is ridiculous.
My materials were coming out at £800 (cost) on their own..
The only way to make this kind of job even remotely profitable is to use a labourer to lash in the first fix over 2 days on £60 per day then allow 1 day 2nd fix and test.
Even then the margins will be so tight you will probably end up working for nothing.
That's how it is now and has been for at least a decade. Problem is that there are thousands willing to work for this pittance and keep the wages down to the benefit of the developer's pocket.
An electrical firm recently contacted me with some labour only prices they were paying for some new builds near me. Fancy a laugh ?
(2 bed) 1ST FIX £340 2ND FIX £340 TEST & COMPLETE £100
(3 bed) 1ST FIX £360 2ND FIX £360 TEST & COMPLETE £100
(3 bed + Ensuite £380 2ND FIX £380 TEST & COMPLETE £100
I took up one of those companies offer a few years ago on some new build flats near me.
They were offering ‘labour’ rates of £200 1st fix and £200 second fix, no testing required on the 2 beds.
£160 first fix and £160 second fix on the 1 beds.
Just for a laugh I took them up on it.
I managed to do a complete second fix on one of the 2 bed flats including consumer unit in 1.5 days.
I literally ripped through it without cleaning up after myself and didn’t test a thing. I didn’t label the board no nothing.
Took 16 weeks to get paid.
Never again
Perhaps there should be a requirement for all operatives to have an understanding of part B, they could include questions in the CSCS and ECS H&S test maybe. Hopefully then trades would not be so casual about breaking through fire barriers to get their stuff in.
Perhaps there should be a requirement for developers to engage an independent Clerk of Works, as part of the planning permission requirements, to ensure standards are enforced in these new builds.
I've seen awful building standards even on high end properties in London where the builder uses site agents straight out ofuniversityBorstal .
The problem is that pretty much all surveyors reports are written in such a way that they can't be held liable for anything under the fabric of the building.I'd also be sueing the surveyor that was employed prior to purchase.
Depends if you went for the "cheap" option I'd bet that most of the owners just did the basic check for valuation purposes for the mortgage, there is so many horror stories in the press that Would never buy a new home or if I was forced in to it by circumstances then I would survey the hell out of it and get the sellers to stump up for any and all indemnity policies.The problem is that pretty much all surveyors reports are written in such a way that they can't be held liable for anything under the fabric of the building.
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