Anyone suing the Government, We're in

[alberthot]

Anyone know of any law suits pending against this ineptgovernment, for acting illegally and losing companies, what must amount to, tensof billions of pounds in business not just from December to April but long term. They bring in a 43.3p FiT to get people to buy into Solar PV and other Green energy, then when it starts to succeed big time and achieve what it was meant to achieve, they drop the industry down the pan because some companies are making a fortune out of it (jealousy?). They had investors from all over the world investing in this country and they close the industry down, after throwing away billions of pounds of our money on the robbing, good for absolutely nothing, banks
If anyones up for claiming massive compensation from these idiots, count us in.
WHERE THERE'S A BLAME THERE'S A CLAIM.
Electro-Sol UK

 

[Eco Deal]

why Not

 

[alberthot]

Why not indeed.....

 

[solarsavings]

Did you help fund FOE's costs?

 

[alberthot]

Wasn't asked........

 

[SolarCity]

I don't think the FOE case has much to do with it.

If the government have been shown to have acted illegally, I would be very interested to hear opinions on where companies stand legally.

 

[BruceB]

Partly that is why the Govt are keeping going on this. If they are found to have acted unlawfully they are vulnerable. The normal chain iirc is that to make a successful claim you would have to show the Govt owed you a duty to behave within the law, that they behaved in an unlawful manner and that as a result of their unlawful behaviour you suffered an actual loss. Now if they lose in the Supreme Court those first two are effectively a given. So it comes to the point of have you actually suffered a loss caused by their behaviour. Normally you would also be expected by a court to take steps to minimise that loss. For example if you are a diverse company could you have reallocated your solar workers to other jobs. So it might come down to have you suffered a loss more than what would be expected to be considered a normal business risk. For contracts in the bank which were frustrated by the Government's action then perhaps yes, for speculative contracts much more doubtful.

I am not a lawyer. This advice is worth what you have paid me for it.

Regards
Bruce

 

[MorganPVI]

Lawyers are the only people that win court cases.

 

[mdovey]

I think that the government are also at risk from customers, not just installers. If a contract was already in place on the 31st October but which was then cancelled because it could not be completed by the 12 December (due to its size or planning permission or whatever), provided that it could be reasonably expected that the installation could have been completed by the 3/3, then the customer may have a case for damages against the government. Ironically, many local councils may fall into this camp.

 

[solarsavings]

I don't think the FOE case has much to do with it.

If the government have been shown to have acted illegally, I would be very interested to hear opinions on where companies stand legally.

Did you give financial support to either SC's or HS's legal fighting fund then?

If I remember correctly FOE were the first to say that they would challenge the government over the cuts. I'm not aware of them making any money out of the solar industry and they have had to fund their action with donations (from the like of us) or diverting funds from other causes.

 

[moggy1968]

If the majority of MPs are allowed to illegally and fraudulently claim expenses without even being investigated by the police and subsequently tried then I don't think you have a prayer.
'Parliamentary Priviledge' seems to principally mean doing what the hell you like, when you like, regardles of wether the law or others.

 

[SolarCity]

Did you give financial support to either SC's or HS's legal fighting fund then?

If I remember correctly FOE were the first to say that they would challenge the government over the cuts. I'm not aware of them making any money out of the solar industry and they have had to fund their action with donations (from the like of us) or diverting funds from other causes.

I'm no expert on law, but is that relevant?

The FOE legal action is claiming that the government action is illegal. If, as it seems, this legal action is succesful and the government action is deemed to be illegal, does it make a difference if I helped fund the initial legal action?

 

[solarsavings]

Can government be sued? People lose work and jobs every day due to government changing the way it works or fund projects or simply for refusing to support the likes of sheffield forgemaster or bombardier most of us will get over it.

 

[solarsavings]

I'm no expert on law, but is that relevant?

The FOE legal action is claiming that the government action is illegal. If, as it seems, this legal action is succesful and the government action is deemed to be illegal, does it make a difference if I helped fund the initial legal action?

Depends whether you think it morally right to expect those who have made nothing from the industry to fund the legal action on behalf of those that have.

 

[SolarCity]

I think the crucial point here is that the government acted illegally.

 

[solarsavings]

I think the point here is that you need go to court to prove that, all the way to the supreme court..................big money!!!!

 

[moggy1968]

yeh, but what you could do is get every hard working, tax paying person in the country to fund your useless and flawed action.
Oh no, sorry, that's what the Government does, my mistake!!!

 

[SolarCity]

I think the point here is that you need go to court to prove that, all the way to the supreme court..................big money!!!!

Surely proving it is what this court case is all about.

My case would be: Government has acted illegally. It had X effect on my business.

 

[solarsavings]

At the risk of repeating myself. Whether the government did or didn't act illegally has to proved in court that costs money, lots of money. Although only a "few thousand" to huhne it's a significant sum to FOE.

Battles won by the few rejoiced by the many.

 

[SolarCity]

At the risk of repeating myself. Whether the government did or didn't act illegally has to proved in court that costs money, lots of money. Although only a "few thousand" to huhne it's a significant sum to FOE.

Like I say, I'm no expert on law but if the FOE are successful in their legal action, does that not mean that the rest of us don't have to repeatedly prove that the government acted illegally?