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Get a room you two, you obviously love each other now, gezzzzz!:tounge_smile:
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I do have a healthy respect for electricity, as I do for people warning others of the dangers. Thanks.
I have already put ferrules on. Its been running for over a year. Im just replacing the socket like for like.
I do have a healthy respect for electricity, as I do for people warning others of the dangers. Thanks.
I have already put ferrules on. Its been running for over a year. Im just replacing the socket like for like.
Hi arsehole :tounge_smile: I didn't reply the other day as I didn't want to get into it , but dave as a very good point, if your not an electrician, then do you have the correct test equipment to test once you replace the unit. it may be like for like but remember you now become the last person to touch it.God forbid anything went wrong, it would be your door they come knocking on.
Who's coming knocking on my door, now?
The RCD isn't really necessary. I just had that for caution. Its just a glorified extension cable, just saves me reeling it up everyday. And the plug end becomes waterproof when the housing is closed for extra safety. I even have higher spec cable than you would get on a normal extension lead.
No I havent got the correct test equipment for the RCD but as I mentioned the Rcd is not a necessity. I will test it with the test switch. The main reason for the rcd is not to trip the house.
I know you can never be too careful with this stuff. And I want to stress I never touch any electrics in the house, besides being illegal I wouldnt want to go near it.
I guess my point is, is that I know what I have is a lot safer than a standard extension cable. And i feel that a call out and testing isnt really necessary. wouldnt it be like needing someone qualified to plug in an extension cable?
I am really trying my hardest not to comes across a s an arsehole haha but its my name after all
Im just trying to get my point across or at least, my thought process.
Thanks
I'd quit while I was ahead (only in your own mind of course.)Who's coming knocking on my door, now?
The RCD isn't really necessary. I just had that for caution. Its just a glorified extension cable, just saves me reeling it up everyday. And the plug end becomes waterproof when the housing is closed for extra safety. I even have higher spec cable than you would get on a normal extension lead.
No I havent got the correct test equipment for the RCD but as I mentioned the Rcd is not a necessity. I will test it with the test switch. The main reason for the rcd is not to trip the house.
I know you can never be too careful with this stuff. And I want to stress I never touch any electrics in the house, besides being illegal I wouldnt want to go near it.
I guess my point is, is that I know what I have is a lot safer than a standard extension cable. And i feel that a call out and testing isnt really necessary. wouldnt it be like needing someone qualified to plug in an extension cable?
I am really trying my hardest not to comes across a s an arsehole haha but its my name after all
Im just trying to get my point across or at least, my thought process.
Thanks
Who's coming knocking on my door, now?
The RCD isn't really necessary. I just had that for caution. Its just a glorified extension cable, just saves me reeling it up everyday. And the plug end becomes waterproof when the housing is closed for extra safety. I even have higher spec cable than you would get on a normal extension lead.
No I havent got the correct test equipment for the RCD but as I mentioned the Rcd is not a necessity. I will test it with the test switch. The main reason for the rcd is not to trip the house.
I know you can never be too careful with this stuff. And I want to stress I never touch any electrics in the house, besides being illegal I wouldnt want to go near it.
I guess my point is, is that I know what I have is a lot safer than a standard extension cable. And i feel that a call out and testing isnt really necessary. wouldnt it be like needing someone qualified to plug in an extension cable?
I am really trying my hardest not to comes across a s an arsehole haha but its my name after all
Im just trying to get my point across or at least, my thought process.
Thanks
..... some people don't realise that "death can be fatal"
The RCD in the house will trip before the one in the socket due to the accumulated earth leakage on the installation biasing the house RCD to trip first.
The test button on the RCD only tests the mechanical operation of the RCD, it does not confirm that it will disconnect in the correct time.
How do you know that your cable is better than a standard extension cable? all of our standard extension cables are made from HO7-RNF flex which is a hell of a lot tougher than any arctic!
And are you sure it is true arctic cable and not just blue coloured PVC flex? A few years ago manufacturers started selling a lot of blue PVC flex as being arctic grade when it is not, this is one of the reasons arctic is no longer allowed for extension leads in temporary power.
To be honest it sounds like a decent extension cable and it is RCD protected and used with care. Nothing different to what I do when I'm hovering the car, etc. We need to be careful or otherwise we will be telling people to get a sparky in to put 13A plug-tops on. Tin hat on and firmly strapped - you won't hurt me! Daz
Why have 2 rcds in series?
2 is better than 1, extra safety. or just pointless?
From your description it is not clear if your outdoor socket is fixed or used as a trailing socket if it is the later and is subjected to knocks and drops then I would think it will be quite pointless as it's calibration will be out
To ask this question rather demonstrates gaps in your knowledge.2 is better than 1, extra safety. or just pointless?
Sort of pointless and no discrimination. But not dangerous. And safer than half the extension cables in use without RCDs at all which I see all the time.
To ask this question rather demonstrates gaps in your knowledge.
I’m surprised some of the forum sponsors haven’t complained about this thread.
I can confirm that we've had no noticeable spikes in the amount of orders received since the starting of this thread. I'm not sure who the forum sponsors are but I don't think they'll be losing too much sleep!
You see this forum is supposed to be for practicing electricians and if we spoon feed information to any Tom, Dick or A Hole who wins - not us.to answer a question with a question and then reply with a 'I know more than you statement' with no explanation, means those gaps will remain.
I am trying to get information, yet maybe your wholly than thou chair is too high for you to reach all the keys and type a useful answer.
but I'm not, so time to get my coat
You'll run up quite a bill while its waiting.Taxi is outside. Meters running
You'll run up quite a bill while its waiting.
Not sure what you expect on here - or are you just a knxb?
Having a name "A-Hole customer" says it all reallyYou know why I am on here you have read the thread. During which I have ask a few questions hoping for a few friendly answers but over the last day or so I have only come to "expect" uppity replies from sparkles with sanctimonious attitudes.
End of thread I feel
Having a name "A-Hole customer" says it all really
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