Could anyone please settle an argument?

[guest119]

Get a room you two, you obviously love each other now, gezzzzz!:tounge_smile:

Boydy

 

[GMES]

I do have a healthy respect for electricity, as I do for people warning others of the dangers. Thanks.

I have already put ferrules on. Its been running for over a year. Im just replacing the socket like for like.

Hi arsehole :tounge_smile: I didn't reply the other day as I didn't want to get into it , but dave as a very good point, if your not an electrician, then do you have the correct test equipment to test once you replace the unit. it may be like for like but remember you now become the last person to touch it.God forbid anything went wrong, it would be your door they come knocking on.

 

[davesparks]

I do have a healthy respect for electricity, as I do for people warning others of the dangers. Thanks.

I have already put ferrules on. Its been running for over a year. Im just replacing the socket like for like.

Good start, now what are you going to do to test that RCD before allowing anyone to use the socket (including you)

 

[A-hole customer]

Hi arsehole :tounge_smile: I didn't reply the other day as I didn't want to get into it , but dave as a very good point, if your not an electrician, then do you have the correct test equipment to test once you replace the unit. it may be like for like but remember you now become the last person to touch it.God forbid anything went wrong, it would be your door they come knocking on.

Who's coming knocking on my door, now?

The RCD isn't really necessary. I just had that for caution. Its just a glorified extension cable, just saves me reeling it up everyday. And the plug end becomes waterproof when the housing is closed for extra safety. I even have higher spec cable than you would get on a normal extension lead.

No I havent got the correct test equipment for the RCD but as I mentioned the Rcd is not a necessity. I will test it with the test switch. The main reason for the rcd is not to trip the house.

I know you can never be too careful with this stuff. And I want to stress I never touch any electrics in the house, besides being illegal I wouldnt want to go near it.

I guess my point is, is that I know what I have is a lot safer than a standard extension cable. And i feel that a call out and testing isnt really necessary. wouldnt it be like needing someone qualified to plug in an extension cable?

I am really trying my hardest not to comes across a s an arsehole haha but its my name after all

Im just trying to get my point across or at least, my thought process.

Thanks

 

[Octopus]

Who's coming knocking on my door, now?

The RCD isn't really necessary. I just had that for caution. Its just a glorified extension cable, just saves me reeling it up everyday. And the plug end becomes waterproof when the housing is closed for extra safety. I even have higher spec cable than you would get on a normal extension lead.

No I havent got the correct test equipment for the RCD but as I mentioned the Rcd is not a necessity. I will test it with the test switch. The main reason for the rcd is not to trip the house.

I know you can never be too careful with this stuff. And I want to stress I never touch any electrics in the house, besides being illegal I wouldnt want to go near it.

I guess my point is, is that I know what I have is a lot safer than a standard extension cable. And i feel that a call out and testing isnt really necessary. wouldnt it be like needing someone qualified to plug in an extension cable?

I am really trying my hardest not to comes across a s an arsehole haha but its my name after all

Im just trying to get my point across or at least, my thought process.

Thanks

And how is the RCD socket going to stop the house tripping then?

 

[trev]

Who's coming knocking on my door, now?

The RCD isn't really necessary. I just had that for caution. Its just a glorified extension cable, just saves me reeling it up everyday. And the plug end becomes waterproof when the housing is closed for extra safety. I even have higher spec cable than you would get on a normal extension lead.

No I havent got the correct test equipment for the RCD but as I mentioned the Rcd is not a necessity. I will test it with the test switch. The main reason for the rcd is not to trip the house.

I know you can never be too careful with this stuff. And I want to stress I never touch any electrics in the house, besides being illegal I wouldnt want to go near it.

I guess my point is, is that I know what I have is a lot safer than a standard extension cable. And i feel that a call out and testing isnt really necessary. wouldnt it be like needing someone qualified to plug in an extension cable?

I am really trying my hardest not to comes across a s an arsehole haha but its my name after all

Im just trying to get my point across or at least, my thought process.

Thanks

I'd quit while I was ahead (only in your own mind of course.)

 

[Knobhead]

This is getting ridiculous. One protagonist is blatantly plugging his company, the other is downright dangerous!

 

[davesparks]

Who's coming knocking on my door, now?

The RCD isn't really necessary. I just had that for caution. Its just a glorified extension cable, just saves me reeling it up everyday. And the plug end becomes waterproof when the housing is closed for extra safety. I even have higher spec cable than you would get on a normal extension lead.

No I havent got the correct test equipment for the RCD but as I mentioned the Rcd is not a necessity. I will test it with the test switch. The main reason for the rcd is not to trip the house.

I know you can never be too careful with this stuff. And I want to stress I never touch any electrics in the house, besides being illegal I wouldnt want to go near it.

I guess my point is, is that I know what I have is a lot safer than a standard extension cable. And i feel that a call out and testing isnt really necessary. wouldnt it be like needing someone qualified to plug in an extension cable?

I am really trying my hardest not to comes across a s an arsehole haha but its my name after all

Im just trying to get my point across or at least, my thought process.

Thanks

The RCD in the house will trip before the one in the socket due to the accumulated earth leakage on the installation biasing the house RCD to trip first.

The test button on the RCD only tests the mechanical operation of the RCD, it does not confirm that it will disconnect in the correct time.

How do you know that your cable is better than a standard extension cable? all of our standard extension cables are made from HO7-RNF flex which is a hell of a lot tougher than any arctic!
And are you sure it is true arctic cable and not just blue coloured PVC flex? A few years ago manufacturers started selling a lot of blue PVC flex as being arctic grade when it is not, this is one of the reasons arctic is no longer allowed for extension leads in temporary power.

 

[UNG]

You see it all the time on trade counters customers with a lack of knowledge and an "it's only" attitude wanting to increase the risk element to their lives and others innocently associated with them and this is just another one of them.

While the customer may have a gripe over not being supplied the exact part ordered he can see from his own quest to source the exact part that it is not always that easy when there are numerous reasons why suppliers may not always have stock and will offer an alternative to get the job up and running.

As to A-Hole's attitude to testing if he ends up in a box due to his own negligence then would it be reasonable to say "The customer wasn't always right" some people don't realise that "death can be fatal"

 

[Badged01]

..... some people don't realise that "death can be fatal"

I don't always agree with everything on the forum but you get my 100% backing there!