Discuss Do you lock off? in the Electricians' Talk area at ElectriciansForums.net

Do you lock off?

  • Always

    Votes: 14 21.9%
  • Usually

    Votes: 8 12.5%
  • Sometimes

    Votes: 16 25.0%
  • Rarely

    Votes: 14 21.9%
  • Never

    Votes: 12 18.8%

  • Total voters
    64
We had an issue today where we needed to fill out a permit to work on electrical sytems. This was given to us by the PC to do. Then we had to hand it back to the site manager to 'sign off'. My comment was "what competencies do you have to sign this permit off?" "None". Was the answer. Absolute madness.

Off topic a bit I know.
 
we work live, got told a story today that had me in stiches.

an electrician got told they are not allowed to work live on this board, he picks up radio and tells the hospital

"There can be no accidents for the next hours as the power is being turned off" lol, i wish i could have seen the formans face
 
Well I'll answer honestly and say usually for domestic.

I take the dynamic risk assesment approach. :)

If I'm working in a commercial environment then always.
 
I put rarely as my honest answer. Take it on a case by case basis and act accordingly. I am happier when I have a 3036 fuse firmly in my pocket rather than simply isolating a MCB I must admit.

My lovely Wiha sidecutters, which were new at the time, got a nice little hole when I mistakenly cut a live cable. They are great for stripping 1.5mm now.

I should probably be more cautious though. Time to dust off the MCB lock I think...
 
I can only speak for the industrial side.

All the companies I’ve worked for, no permit or incorrect isolation and you’re in deep ----. This covered more than just electrical, all plant services and dangers were included.

In the electrical department we had a get out. Sections of plant could be handed over for test. You can’t test many things with no power and bits isolated.
You had to have a damn good reason for asking for a “sanction to test”.

The isolation procedure at the first place was 170 pages covering just about anything you could think of.

The foundry wanted to improve their systems and I was lumbered with the job. Quick get out for me, phone the first company. They sent me the full document, the management went in to a state shock when I dropped it on their desks.

Isolation procedures need commitment from everyone involved.


What goes on in the domestic field I don’t know but I’m getting the feeling its very lackadaisical.
 
I can only speak for the industrial side.

All the companies I’ve worked for, no permit or incorrect isolation and you’re in deep ----. This covered more than just electrical, all plant services and dangers were included.

In the electrical department we had a get out. Sections of plant could be handed over for test. You can’t test many things with no power and bits isolated.
You had to have a damn good reason for asking for a “sanction to test”.

The isolation procedure at the first place was 170 pages covering just about anything you could think of.

The foundry wanted to improve their systems and I was lumbered with the job. Quick get out for me, phone the first company. They sent me the full document, the management went in to a state shock when I dropped it on their desks.

Isolation procedures need commitment from everyone involved.


What goes on in the domestic field I don’t know but I’m getting the feeling its very lackadaisical.
usually in domestic its, flick it off then a bit of tape over breaker
 
I'm with Tony on this one, it's a different world working in the industrial sector. I have worked on many varied things from huge crushers and tyre shredders to furnaces, foundries and the list goes on.
It doesn't bear thinking about what could go wrong if there wasn't an extremely stringent isolation procedure in place, I have unfortunately witnessed a couple of serious injuries due to lack of safe isolation and I don't want to see another one as long as I live.
 
Most commercial we used 2 sets of padlocks, our own and the main contractors.
Permit to work, and then only when main contractor and electrical contractor are both happy that the circuit(s) have been dead test again, will both padlocks come off and re powered.
 

Reply to Do you lock off? in the Electricians' Talk area at ElectriciansForums.net

Similar Threads

I hope this is the right place to post this, please redirect me if not. I've spent quite some time reading the forums, so I apologize if I've...
Replies
9
Views
1K
Hello all, I've just been perusing the AM2/E/S threads on here. Thought you might like a bit of a review. If, like I did, you find yourself...
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • Article
Been playing around with a fair few blogs for a while related to this topic. UK Tiling Forum that is. UK Tiling Forum - The Tiling Forum for the...
Replies
1
Views
5K
Ok Hello all and thanks for having me. I need some advice and joined this forum hoping to be pointed in the right direction. First off I am not...
Replies
31
Views
4K
Please help, I'm still new to testing for myself and sometimes I wonder if my new Megger is being naughty on purpose as my Fluke wasn't as prone...
Replies
27
Views
5K

OFFICIAL SPONSORS

Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Electrician Courses Green Electrical Goods PCB Way Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Pushfit Wire Connectors Electric Underfloor Heating Electrician Courses
These Official Forum Sponsors May Provide Discounts to Regular Forum Members - If you would like to sponsor us then CLICK HERE and post a thread with who you are, and we'll send you some stats etc

YOUR Unread Posts

This website was designed, optimised and is hosted by untold.media Operating under the name Untold Media since 2001.
Back
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website. For the best site experience please disable your AdBlocker.

I've Disabled AdBlock