Emergency Lights 30 cm away?

[Harrypops]

Ok thanks everyone for all your advice

 

[Harrypops]

An electrician who is my mum's neighbour insists that he won't charge me for the work, just for the certificate £120. He says that the electrical certificate is separate. He can't do both together. Is this true??? As my electrical certificate will be due in 2 years again.

 

[James]

what certificate is he issuing?

 

[Harrypops]

what certificate is he issuing?

Emergency light certificate. Installation I guess

 

[James]

for £120 i would want to know what certificate he is issuing!!!
i would find out first what certificate the local authority is asking for, because it may be a waste of money.

 

[Harrypops]

for £120 i would want to know what certificate he is issuing!!!
i would find out first what certificate the local authority is asking for, because it may be a waste of money.

The council in their notice have only asked for the installation of emergency iluminaire lights. They haven't asked for a certificate. But lightening to all the above comments I thought in case of a future mishap, if the insurance co asks who fitted them, better that I get the certificate.

 

[James]

https://www.pal-online.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/esn2.pdf

something like that, not to be confused with a test certificate

 

[westward10]

All very well giving Certification but how are you ensuring compliance with BS5266:1.

 

[Harrypops]

https://www.pal-online.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/esn2.pdf

something like that, not to be confused with a test certificate

He's confirmed it will am installation cert. Thanks James

 

[westward10]

So he is confirming compliance.

 

[nicebutdim]

If ever a thread was begging to be closed...

 

[Harrypops]

All very well giving Certification but how are you ensuring compliance with BS5266:1.

The link James sent above of the installation certificate mentions that the issuer declares it's to BS 5266-1+BS...... Surely if someone is certifying installation it has to confirm to British Standards

 

[Harrypops]

So he is confirming compliance.

Yes

 

[westward10]

The link James sent above of the installation certificate mentions that the issuer declares it's to BS 5266-1+BS...... Surely if someone is certifying installation it has to confirm to British Standards

You can put what ever you wish on a Certificate but it doesn't mean it complies.
Is he going to be providing the photometric data to accompany the Certificate. To be honest anyone who offers to sell you a Certificate is nothing more than a chancer.

 

[Harrypops]

You can put what ever you wish on a Certificate but it doesn't mean it complies.
Is he going to be providing the photometric data to accompany the Certificate. To be honest anyone who offers to sell you a Certificate is nothing more than a chancer.

He is qualified electrician and he is the one installing them. He's not issuing the cert. without seeing the work.

 

[James]

Give up,
designing and installing emergency lighting for dwellings is the job of a specialist.
Take your fire risk assessment to 3 company's that do this sort of work everyday and we will help you decide what is the best quote.
Honestly it is not something that you should be lashing together yourself and trying to find someone to write a dodgy installation certificate for.

these lights are not there to tick a box on a form or to look good, they are true LIFESAVERS
and if you fail in any part of the design, installation, testing, maintenance of them and the worst happens, you may have to stand in court and watch the family's of those affected by your actions hug each other with tears rolling down their cheeks as you are sentenced and imprisoned.

we cannot advise on ways to beat the system or avoid having a professional job done when it is obviously out of your competency to do do it your self but you seem determined to do just that and hope for the best.

If I had the Button to do it,
THREAD CLOSED.

 

[Harrypops]

Give up,
designing and installing emergency lighting for dwellings is the job of a specialist.
Take your fire risk assessment to 3 company's that do this sort of work everyday and we will help you decide what is the best quote.
Honestly it is not something that you should be lashing together yourself and trying to find someone to write a dodgy installation certificate for.

these lights are not there to tick a box on a form or to look good, they are true LIFESAVERS
and if you fail in any part of the design, installation, testing, maintenance of them and the worst happens, you may have to stand in court and watch the family's of those affected by your actions hug each other with tears rolling down their cheeks as you are sentenced and imprisoned.

we cannot advise on ways to beat the system or avoid having a professional job done when it is obviously out of your competency to do do it your self but you seem determined to do just that and hope for the best.

If I had the Button to do it,
THREAD CLOSED.

James what makes you think I'm doing it myself. Yes initially I did persist that. But upon everyone's advise I am going to get a professional electrician to do it, as I saw the light (pun intended) and realised that the consequences could be detremental. Say the lights don't function as they are supposed to, noone's fault, a mishap and the insurance company will say where is the certificate of installation. I appreciate everyone's advice. I know you guys are doing this as a service to society. Bless you're hearts.

 

[Harrypops]

James what makes you think I'm doing it myself. Yes initially I did persist that. But upon everyone's advise I am going to get a professional electrician to do it, as I saw the light (pun intended) and realised that the consequences could be detremental. Say the lights don't function as they are supposed to, noone's fault, a mishap and the insurance company will say where is the certificate of installation. I appreciate everyone's advice. I know you guys are doing this as a service to society. Bless you're hearts.

Anyhu, my question was-that the electrical certificate is separate. Electrical and emergency light certificate cannot be together. Is this true??? As my electrical certificate is due again in 2 years

 

[westward10]

Anyhu, my question was-that the electrical certificate is separate. Electrical and emergency light certificate cannot be together. Is this true??? As my electrical certificate is due again in 2 years

Ask the person certifying it.

 

[westward10]

Your profile has you as a trainee is this correct.