SuperlecDirect - ElectriciansForums.net Electrical Suppliers
This official sponsor may provide discounts for members

Discuss Little Things Done Well in the Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

GBDamo

-
Supporter
Welcome to ElectriciansForums.net - The American Electrical Advice Forum
Head straight to the main forums to chat by click here:  American Electrical Advice Forum

As title, show us your little uns.

20190829_091834.jpg

Just remember the smaller it is the less chance of non-conformances.
 
Instyle LED Lighting Specialists UK
This official sponsor may provide discounts for members

GBDamo

-
Supporter
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #3
PA Testing is so boring the only failure I've had is this plug top that was poorly wired and flex not secured.

Should have done a video to go with it, YouTube it and make millions of £££s.
 

pirate

-
Arms
Esteemed
It is indeed boring...and why are the stickers so expensive? They ought to be cheaper now you don't need a "Next test date" section.
 

DPG

-
Arms
Esteemed
Patron
Oh dear, you've said PAT - Pete999 won't be happy :):)
 

GBDamo

-
Supporter
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #12
terrible. the flex should have been twisted so that the N (blue) was on the left instead of on top of the L (brown).:eek::eek::eek:
What do they expect for £1.20 per item, the moon on a stick?
Post automatically merged:

Oh dear, you've said PAT - Pete999 won't be happy :):)
At least it was only "PA Testing" and not "PAT Testing" that would've sent him to an early(ish) grave.
 

GBDamo

-
Supporter
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #14
And where's the plug top? :D:D
? It's supposed to have a top, wondered why i kept getting a jolt every time i plugged it in.
Post automatically merged:

I’m not a big fan of ferrules in plug tops

Just my opinion
That's ok I put them in the plug bottom, or is it plug top bottom.

Snigger.....plug bottom....snigger
 
? It's supposed to have a top, wondered why i kept getting a jolt every time i plugged it in.
Post automatically merged:


That's ok I put them in the plug bottom, or is it plug top bottom.

Snigger.....plug bottom....snigger
I was once on a small domestic site where
A builder supplied the decorators with a 240v real lead of which the plug top had no top.
The painter plugged it straight in getting a wicked shock , then his mate tried to unplug it while it was still live getting himself a wicked bolt...

I kid you not , this is absolutely true

Soon as I saw what had happened I cut the plug top straight off
 
Ok -Oversized cable , bound and crushed.
(and may years worth of other bad habits)
Honest Joe photo. (non ideal Plug-top-and-LID-cap.jpgphotography)
 

GBDamo

-
Supporter
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #20
I was once on a small domestic site where
A builder supplied the decorators with a 240v real lead of which the plug top had no top.
The painter plugged it straight in getting a wicked shock , then his mate tried to unplug it while it was still live getting himself a wicked bolt...

I kid you not , this is absolutely true

Soon as I saw what had happened I cut the plug top straight off
You'd have been better off cutting their hands off, for their own good.
Post automatically merged:

N
Ok -Oversized cable , bound and crushed.
(and may years worth of other bad habits)
Honest Joe photo. (non ideal View attachment 51738photography)
Not a bad effort, is this going to turn i to an "I can wire a plug me" thread?
Post automatically merged:

N (blue) L (brown)
Look I know I'm a short course shyster but I worked that one out already.
 
Last edited:

Timbo

-
Arms
Supporter
Esteemed
This was on the charging lead of a patient lifting hoist. It wasn't charging! The original moulded plug had been ripped off and this was fitted by the handyman.:confused:20190131_110859.jpg
Post automatically merged:

And here's another one, same care home a few months later. 20190801_095425.jpg
Post automatically merged:

Went to check a bed at another care home, wasn't working......20190807_144945.jpg
 
Last edited:

littlespark

-
Arms
Esteemed
I was once on a small domestic site where
A builder supplied the decorators with a 240v real lead of which the plug top had no top.
The painter plugged it straight in getting a wicked shock , then his mate tried to unplug it while it was still live getting himself a wicked bolt...

I kid you not , this is absolutely true

Soon as I saw what had happened I cut the plug top straight off
...And that's why your pliers have a handy wire stripping notch in the cutters.

Isolated power, unplugged THEN cut the plug top off.


re, the OP photo.... that neutral wire is way too long. Should be roughly halfway between the length of the earth and live.
 
D

Deleted member 105166

I was once on a small domestic site where
A builder supplied the decorators with a 240v real lead of which the plug top had no top.
The painter plugged it straight in getting a wicked shock , then his mate tried to unplug it while it was still live getting himself a wicked bolt...

I kid you not , this is absolutely true

Soon as I saw what had happened I cut the plug top straight off
I bet they stripped the flex back and were using it again on bare wires in no time.
 

littlespark

-
Arms
Esteemed
I've seen an extension lead like that before. A old farmer had one for his generator for when the power went out.
He would plug one end into the genny, the other into a socket in his house, thus giving him power.
 

Simon47

-
Arms
Esteemed
Yes, using a widowmaker for a genny is commonplace, but as an extension - not very. Though years ago I spotted one running the till in the local chemist - no-one seemed at all bothered when I mentioned it.
 
D

Deleted member 105166

Yes, using a widowmaker for a genny is commonplace, but as an extension - not very.
Hopefully not "commonplace", although indeed you do see them from time to time.
Most people are completely ignorant of the dangers of their widowmaker leads, but equally most will listen and learn if you take the time out to explain.
I think it's because the 13A plugtop is a familiar everyday item whereas the 16A ceeform isn't, that they don't immediately see anything wrong with the example I've pictured here, but if you suggest two 13A plugtops cabled together, the appreciation of danger usually registers with a layman.

005.JPG
 

littlespark

-
Arms
Esteemed
Yes. A “widow maker” lead. I’d forgot what they called it
 
D

Deleted member 105166

The "nastier" type of widowmaker is the 2 x 13A plugtops to 1 x 32A ceeform, typically used by "free party" (rave) sound system people to power their oversized bass-heavy PA systems in venues with only 13A outlets.
Aside from the widowmaker aspect, they are of course oblivious to the fact that one day they'll connect the two 13A plugtops to two separate phases. :eek:
 

Simon47

-
Arms
Esteemed
At my last place, one of our customers had more than their share of power cuts - most of them planned and pre-notified. One day, I took a phone call from them to ask about using a widowmaker - though they didn't know what it's called until I told them and explained why.
The reason they asked was because their neighbour rented electric mini diggers and a 'kin big diesel genny for running them whete there wasn't a suitable supply available. The neighbour was used to just knocking off the main switch and using a widowmaker with big red plugs on it. They'd suggested our customer could share the genny and use a widowmaker as well.
Apart from safety, our customer didn't have any 3 phase sockets, and their circuits were spread across 3 phases. I persuaded them to have an inlet and changeover switch installed - which was done in a rush as a scheduled power cut was only 3 days away.

On the day, it didn't go quite to plan. Therecwere "wiring errors" and the genny tripped - plus their cables had no neutral wire even though they used 5 pin plugs o_O
I was tempted to RIDDOR both the use of a widowmaker and the mismatch between cables and connectors. In the end I had to keep quiet or it would have caused problems with our customer.
I think the neighbour did install their own inlet & switch setup after I explained why widiwnakers are called that - it's not just having a plug with live pins.
 
D

Deleted member 105166

Did you RIDDOR them ?
Right or wrong, I think most of us would make safe, point it out to management, then carry out the necessary repairs... and the good relationship with the client. Taking the other route would be a quick way to lose your customer base.
 

Reply to Little Things Done Well in the Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

CK Tools :) The professionals choice when it comes to Electrical Tools
This official sponsor may provide discounts for members
Top Bottom