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Yes, unless the socket is for either a specific purpose or intended to be used only by skilled/instructed persons.
from july you will need a risk assesment if you omit rcd protection in domestic etcputting a light and socket in loft ...light from existing lighting circuit break into ring for socket...wylex board no rcd protection ...all bonding in place do i need rcd protection for socket as all cables to be surface mounted
from july you will need a risk assesment if you omit rcd protection in domestic etc
I can only assume you are correct as you always seem to be, so can you kindly point me in the direction of where it says you need a risk assessment please.
from july you will need a risk assesment if you omit rcd protection in domestic etc
In order for the omission of RCD protection to any socket-outlet on the basis of risk assessment to be permitted by Regulation 411.3.3, the risk assessment must determine that the RCD protection is not necessary. The risk assessment must be documented and a copy of it must be attached to the Electrical Installation Certificate or (where applicable) Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate covering the installation of the socket-outlet.Omitting RCD protection is not permitted for an installation in a dwelling; it is permitted only for an installation in some other type of location (see indent (a) of the new version of Regulation 411.3.3).
In order for the omission of RCD protection to any socket-outlet on the basis of risk assessment to be permitted by Regulation 411.3.3, the risk assessment must determine that the RCD protection is not necessary. The risk assessment must be documented and a copy of it must be attached to the Electrical Installation Certificate or (where applicable) Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate covering the installation of the socket-outlet.
and you cant omit for skilled or instructed people now.
The risk assessment would have to be carried out in accordance with The Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999 (SI 1999 No 3242) (MHSW), which applies in England and Wales, or the corresponding Statutory Regulations in other parts of the United Kingdom. The MHSW is referred to in NOTE 3 of the new version of Regulation 411.3.3 by means of its reference to item 10 of Appendix 2 of BS 7671.
obviously risk assement is not allowed for domestic because of what you have to write risk assement toIndent (a) of regulation 411.3.3 where, other than for an installation in a dwelling, a documented risk assessment determines that the RCD protection is not necessary.
the omission of RCD protection is not permitted in a dwelling.
obviously risk assement is not allowed for domestic because of what you have to write risk assement to
The risk assessment would have to be carried out in accordance with The Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999 (SI 1999 No 3242) (MHSW),
read the whole post, dont skimI don't get your point. Do you think RCD protection can be omitted in a dwelling with the intent of change of 411.3.3?
read the whole post, dont skim
from july you will need a risk assesment if you omit rcd protection in domestic etc
obviously risk assement is not allowed for domestic because of what you have to write risk assement to
The risk assessment would have to be carried out in accordance with The Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999 (SI 1999 No 3242) (MHSW),
At the moment there is no requirement to work to Amendment 3, though of course it is permitted to work to amendment 3.
From 1st July, in a dwelling, the only method available to permit the omission of 30mA RCD protection for sockets is for a specifically labelled socket for a specific piece of equipment.
In non dwellings in certain circumstances it may be possible to undertake a risk assessment that identifies that 30mA RCD protection is not required for a socket or sockets and if this is documented with the installation certificate then the 30mA RCD protection may be omitted.
i knew about the change etc but by the time i looked into specidics i couldnt change it because off lockout.I think you're contradicting yourself.
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