VIR Cables a Ticking time bomb

[nickblake]

This ones reall scary , visited a house , and found this , this is when you need to issue a Danger notification and i did , but how the hell do you tell a 79 year old widow that there electrics are dangerouse , well that what i have had to face ,and it was drop tools and get it sorted , basically the whole house is i need of a total rewire and its been started , looked at it friday started rewiring yesterday , had a sleepless weekend i can tel you , shocked the woman with the speed i jumped on it ,and managed to do it without scar ing the living daylights out of her , part rewired now , have managed to remove the worst effected cables and install a new dual RCD board in new legs to the kitchen boiler cooker and earth bonding installed, the whole kitchen was running off the cooker circuit tapped off with junction boxes and sockets also wired in 1mm twe of a 30 amp 3036 nice , realy annoying thing is 6 months ago she had a new boiler radiators and room stat installed guss what no bonding to water or gas service and the room stat wired with no neutral and installed right next to the heating pipes ,ment to be done by a qualified spark !!! more like a muppet , so if you get a customer who says its ok works for years show them these pics ,cables date back to the early 50's

i think the biggest question is why the hell didnt the meter fitter inform the lady of the house as it had a new meter fitted november 2010 !!!!! copy of the pics inc the british gas one sent to the ESC

 

[Phil]

that`s some bad wiring mate. you might have had a sleepless weekend but at least you know her days won`t be cut short any more due to that time bomb she had in there. the Pir`s really need promoting to home owners as well as businesses. Don`t forget the pics when you have made it good again mate

 

[IQ Electrical]

Nice one Nick, so this abortion also 'slipped past' the eyes of the GasSafe heating installer too, he obviously issued his certificate with a tick in the 'bonding' box?

Makes you sick, do you ever involve relatives before starting jobs like this? Just wondering if you are in a better position going through the intended work with say a son or daughter?

 

[Phil]

Nice one Nick, so this abortion also 'slipped past' the eyes of the GasSafe heating installer too, he obviously issued his certificate with a tick in the 'bonding' box?

Makes you sick, do you ever involve relatives before starting jobs like this? Just wondering if you are in a better position going through the intended work with say a son or daughter?

thats what I have done in the past IQ. i once had to visit a house that was in a dangerous way and rather than someones son or daughter thinking i was trying to spend their inheritance money i asked the mum to give them a bell so they could see it. when she came round she was great took her for a walk through explaining everything to her and told her i would itemise a quote and if they wanted somone else to price they were more than welcome but stressed it had to be done asap. I got the job there and then and ended up with a full re wire from her daughter in their newly bought house as well. everyone safe and happy

 

[nickblake]

Nice one Nick, so this abortion also 'slipped past' the eyes of the GasSafe heating installer too, he obviously issued his certificate with a tick in the 'bonding' box?

Makes you sick, do you ever involve relatives before starting jobs like this? Just wondering if you are in a better position going through the intended work with say a son or daughter?

lol if you could see the garage her son has just wait till i can get some pics of that oh my god ill issue him a DN when i see him , just one example 2.5mm twin and earth stripped to the inner core going up to the light fitting in the garage catches the metal door every time you open it not an RCD in sight , the lady concerned is well with it so i felt that there was no need to contact her family and the funny thing is she wants me to go and check her sons electrics to , he did install some sockets in the longe cables come off an un earth lighting circuit and are under the carpet

 

[Phil]

under the carpet cables. not seen them for a couple of years now really makes you wonder what the hell they are thinking when they do it mate

 

[High Tower]

what, carpet doesnt provide mechanical protection or protection against direct contact?

 

[IQ Electrical]

what, carpet doesnt provide mechanical protection or protection against direct contact?

It does but only to the floorboards!

 

[Phil]

what, carpet doesnt provide mechanical protection or protection against direct contact?

the numpty i followed in on a job had clipped 6mm to a skirt and then under the laminate. a good 40 foot or so run to the cooker outlet. he scraped a nice hole out where it came from under the laminate into the kitchen and just laid it on the floor and let the grease take control of holding it in place. it got better when i opened the isolater on the wall as he had trimmed 3 or 4 cores back because it was tight for him to get a fix?? the mind boggles sometimes

 

[nickblake]

Up Date : well so far ,new supply to boiler get the heating back on,the lady of the house said she couldnt get the house realy warm , well im not suprised room stat wired in 3 core flex no neutral as we know the honey well stats require a neutral , and the next thing it was installed pushed upto a trunking that had pipes for a radiator what a muppet, new circuits are in for the kitchen ,cooker and ring , and new circuits in for the lounge just the 2 legs at the mo , rewired the lights in the kitchen ,hall and lounge ,so at least she has some lighting ,although now most of the sockets are un powered except for the new ones the cabling to variouse fitting were so poor and disturbing them has made them worse so there was no way i could leave the power on to those circuits , and also i required the old cable runs for the new cable more pics will follow

 

[nickblake]

OH my god just when i thought it couldnt get any worse , thank god i isolated the old supplies ~!!!!!!! Take a good look at this was a bathroom light fitting in Zone 2 i cant repeat what i said when i saw it

 

[IQ Electrical]

View attachment 5494View attachment 5493OH my god just when i thought it couldnt get any worse , thank god i isolated the old supplies ~!!!!!!!View attachment 5492 Take a good look at this was a bathroom light fitting in Zone 2 i cant repeat what i said when i saw it

Excellent pictures, what a state, you'll sleep well knowing that ones safe now!

 

[nickblake]

Been a few hard days graft to get some power on for the weekend ,, ill tell you i hate loft insulation 4 blinkin days in the stuff , well at least now she can have a shower , lights ground and first floor ahve been done , well in the improtant area's power in the kitchen heating and power in the lounge banding to water and gas and all the new smoke detectors have been done

 

[nickblake]

Right ho 2 weeks on and the jobs just about finished just one little toilet and passageway to do , was not the easiest of installs very thick welsh stone walls nice 2 x £60.00 25mm 1 meter masonary bits later lol , had to drill 8 25mm holes through the walls just to get the cables to parts of the building , sleeved as well of course , you never drill a hole that lenght and put cables in without sleeve , any how part of the house dead center was a large chimney 4meters across no hope of drilling through that one , so rings put 2 in kitchen and large lounge and 2 20 amp radials for the sockets in the bedrooms and landing , smokes in without question , and 4 lighting circuits ,few old lead gas pipes about and still live so a tad careful there , then had to put a hold on the garage as the ceiling appeared to be asbestos , the garage will be in a 10mm PVC through the house with a supplimentary 10mm and this will change into a 3 core SWA to go under ground using an existing duct , and as it is existing 2 warning lables will be installed at each end where it gones under ground and pops out (warning cable below surface ) elderly lady isn't to good on her legs so i lowered the consumer unit so she could reach without the use of steps ,tested it all out all good , still a few items to do heres some pics of the new CDU unconnected circuit is the garage supply Behind the paster where the cables run is a 22mm lead gas pipe how the hell they missed them when installing the old boards ill never know

 

[Roger]

Where was the board from ? Sector never heard of them,any good ?
So many different brands these days brought some Harok RCBO's for a mod the other day and at £12.00 each plus vat were a bargain.
I thought they were better than the new Wylex and they cost £20.00 plus vat !

 

[nickblake]

Sector are mad by electrium so basically wylex / crabtree they are senates own brand not bad boards only thing i hate is the tri rated cable it always looks a mess