Wagos on Final Ring Circuits

[telectrix]

I like plenty

but does plenty like you? you could get a room.

 

[loz2754]

but does plenty like you? you could get a room.

A room with a bar. And a bus. Way to go!

 

[nicebutdim]

Spotted this video on Efixx and it reminded me of this thread:

MK Logic Rapid Fix.

 

[MJPD29]

Spotted this video on Efixx and it reminded me of this thread:

MK Logic Rapid Fix.

They are a great idea but at 29.99 each in screwfix I dont think I'll be sampling them

 

[nicebutdim]

That price is for a box of 5, although £6 each is still a bit steep.

 

[pc1966]

Spotted this video on Efixx and it reminded me of this thread:
MK Logic Rapid Fix.

Actually that is a brilliant idea!

Yes, a little on the pricy side but you can see it would lead to time-saving and probably far fewer problems of poor ring continuity in the future.

 

[MJPD29]

That price is for a box of 5, although £6 each is still a bit steep.

6 quid each isn't too bad but still expensive for a socket. Hopefully in time they become more common and come down in price

 

[westward10]

Fitted some 32A triple pole sockets a few years back with push fit connections. Lifted a plastic pin pushed conductor in then pushed pin back down. Wasn't sure about them but they gave no problems.

 

[DefyG]

Looking back at original posting to see what its all about, in ~13 JSJW quotes a method for terminating to socket outlets.
I use wago's to terminate for testing at first fix stage but then disconnect and terminate the single core conductors straight into socket terminals for second fix (re-using the wago's eleswhere).
I think (although never tried it) phaffing about with flexible conductor (extra cost and time) which 9 times out 10 would need a ferrule to terminate correctly would be less efficient?

 

[John-SJW]

They are £5.99 at Screwfix. When other makers get on board, with single, FCUs. etc, expect them to drop substantially in price, as did screwless downlighters.

They are well overdue. They still do not eliminate Wagos at the back of backboxes for ease of 1st fix testing.

I do not know what max amps the connections on the back of these MK Rapids is. I assume 32A.

Some 4mm radials go over 32A. So best fit a ring in that case.

Nevertheless, a great advance. We are still about 40 years behind Denmark, Germany, etc, where screwless sockets are the norm.

 

[John-SJW]

Fitted some 32A triple pole sockets a few years back with push fit connections. Lifted a plastic pin pushed conductor in then pushed pin back down. Wasn't sure about them but they gave no problems.

Not UK 13A 3 pins. What were they?

Looking back at original posting to see what its all about, in ~13 JSJW quotes a method for terminating to socket outlets.
I use wago's to terminate for testing at first fix stage but then disconnect and terminate the single core conductors straight into socket terminals for second fix (re-using the wago's eleswhere).
I think (although never tried it) phaffing about with flexible conductor (extra cost and time) which 9 times out 10 would need a ferrule to terminate correctly would be less efficient?

It is quicker leaving in the Wagos.
30 sockets, which is normal in many homes, can have 90 flex tails. Easy and much quicker when the tails are fixed to the sockets on a bench. Then a sinch in pushing them back into the boxes, with no stress on the terminals.

Also, no terminal has more that one conductor in it. Current only flows through the socket terminals when that socket draws current.

The sockets terminals are not used as junctions, carrying the final ring's load. The superior Wagos with one conductor in each slot, carries the load.

Much superior method.
Safer all around.
Quicker to install.
Eliminates stress on conductors and screwed terminals also.

It can knock a day off an install.
Cables all tested on 1st fix.

 

[westward10]

Not UK 13A 3 pins. What were they?

It is quicker leaving in the Wagos.
30 sockets, which is normal in many homes, can have 90 flex tails. Easy and fixed to the sockets on a bench. Then a sinch in pushing them back into the boxes, with no stress on the terminals.

Also, no terminal has more that one conductor in it. Current only flows through the socket terminals when that socket draws current.

The sockets terminals are not used as junctions, carrying the final ring's load. The superior Wagos with one conductor in each slot, carries the load.

Much superior method.
Safer all around.
Quicker to install.
Eliminates stress on conductors and screwed terminals also.

IEC 60309 32A socket.

 

[John-SJW]

IEC 60309 32A socket.

Sometimes known as Commandos.

 

[westward10]

Sometimes known as Commandos.

Well that is an MK brand name.

 

[John-SJW]

A follow up vid..

 

[static zap]

Sometimes known as Commandos.

Going "Commando" is something completely different !