Wall light problems!!

[DC property]

2 wall lights need replacing.... Switch wired correctly, One wired up correctly but no power to the second/end wall light. Earth core is live in the first of the wall light!!! Customer does not want cables ripped out because of new carpet...
What goes where????

 

[Rpa07]

Has that third single block in the first picture got a neutral and an Earth in it?
Theres an extra core - can’t make it out in the photo!

 

[Leesparkykent]

Probably best to get a electrician to take a look.

 

[Octopus]

Have you got any proper test kit?

 

[DC property]

Has that third single block in the first picture got a neutral and an Earth in it?
Theres an extra core - can’t make it out in the photo!

No that is a single earth cable. I just but a sleeve on it as a 'note to self' moment

 

[DC property]

Have you got any proper test kit?

Not to hand for about a fortnight! Was meant to be a quick look and replacement.... Not going to leave a live earth tho

 

[buzzlightyear]

Was the other light working before you started working on it .

 

[buzzlightyear]

I can just about to see on that pic a cpc in with the neutral tails

 

[DC property]

Was the other light working before you started working on it .

Yes..... But I can't remember which wire went where because they were all burnt until I stripped them back

 

[DC property]

I can just about to see on that pic a cpc in with the neutral tails

No CPC in the neutrals.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Now i am now lol ,steep away get some one that knows what they are doing.

 

[DC property]

Also when I wired it as it should be.... The end light only had 120v running to it. Never lit the bulb tho

 

[DC property]

It's an absolute nightmare trying to work out some ---- work!!

 

[buzzlightyear]

I will not answer that for you .

 

[DC property]

You don't need to...

 

[MJPD29]

Sounds like a damaged cable, she you say the earth is live what voltage is on it

 

[sparksburnout]

There was a guy on another thread worrying how he would obtain an NVQ level 3, and I see you have managed to purchase one from the internet. The mind boggles.......

 

[DC property]

There was a guy on another thread worrying how he would obtain an NVQ level 3, and I see you have managed to purchase one from the internet. The mind boggles.......

Always one ---- on here that has to put his 10p worth of useless comments!

 

[buzzlightyear]

having looked again at the pic on my lap top but when I saw he
picture on my old Nokia phone. the cpc is with a brown over sleeved
together ,or am I mistaken.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Always one **** on here that has to put his 10p worth of useless comments!

handbags will be posted to you soon lads.

 

[Octopus]

Always one **** on here that has to put his 10p worth of useless comments!

So answer my questing above.

Do you have any proper test kit?

 

[goasis]

If you've only got 2 cables at the 1st light then one is most likely sw l & n, the other the feed out to the 2nd light. Currently it looks like you may have 2 n's going to light 2. However, you also have a (presumably) paying customer, another fault, no test equipment, not a clue, so good luck!

 

[Pete999]

Always one **** on here that has to put his 10p worth of useless comments!

Quite frankly, you have 2 cables at this lighting point, and you ask the question " where do things go" you need to ask yourself should you be attempting this work?

 

[cloverman]

DC I think Goasis and Pete999 have been very honest in their answers and without test equipment you are going to struggle with fault finding on any job, however simple it may first appear. Perhaps on this occasion be true to yourself and leave it until you have the proper equipment to help diagnose the problem.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Do you have any proper test kit?

yes is the answer tongue or finger .
remember when you were a kid a pp9 battery and to test it .you would use your tongue .but I'm not saying to use them ,but just think about it.

 

[Richard Burns]

Because you have a three core cable at the switch spread across two switches I would try and trace what has been done at the light that is switched by the other switch, the cable is probably jointed there to avoid a mass of cables at the wall lights.
I assume you have sleeved the "live" cpc in both a green and yellow and a brown sleeve and put that in the single terminal block on its own.

 

[Toneyz]

Looks like cable to the first wall light then out to the other. Were these working before? Why have you installed incorrect sleeving on?

 

[telectrix]

i findit hard to believe that a guy with nvq3 can't sort a simple lighting problem.

 

[Octopus]

i findit hard to believe that a guy with nvq3 can't sort a simple lighting problem.

I find it harder to believe that he hasn't got any proper test kit.

Money for the latest phone probably

 

[DC property]

having looked again at the pic on my lap top but when I saw he
picture on my old Nokia phone. the cpc is with a brown over sleeved
together ,or am I mistaken.

CPC is on its own... Has the yellow and green sleeve. I put a piece of brown sleeve on it as when it's terminated with other CPC the breaker trips

 

[DC property]

Because you have a three core cable at the switch spread across two switches I would try and trace what has been done at the light that is switched by the other switch, the cable is probably jointed there to avoid a mass of cables at the wall lights.
I assume you have sleeved the "live" cpc in both a green and yellow and a brown sleeve and put that in the single terminal block on its own.

Indeed. It is only sleeved like that so I have a note of it

 

[Toneyz]

Time to get your test kit out I think did it trip the breaker before.

 

[DPG]

It's simple really, these are the facts:

You can't leave it like it is.
You can't fix it.
You haven't got currently test kit to test it or fault find it.

So the answer is they need to get an electrician to come and sort it. Maybe someone on here is nearby?

 

[telectrix]

CPC is on its own... Has the yellow and green sleeve. I put a piece of brown sleeve on it as when it's terminated with other CPC the breaker trips

time to give up.

 

[Pete999]

I think what we have here is a case of a person with god intentions, being misinformed by the training establishments. A property developer trying to make a living, and gaining qualifications, hoping that all will go well, but unfortunately he has come up against a problem, which in all honesty the training undertaken, should have allowed him to sort the problem out fairly easily.
Personally I don't think we should knock the individual in this case, it's obvious that the training he has undertaken, was a waste of time and money, maybe his fault, I'm not sure, but OP you need to take stock and employ someone who has the experience and underpinning knowledge to help you out, sorry but that's how I see the problem. Good luck.

 

[sparksburnout]

I think what we have here is a case of a person with god intentions, being misinformed by the training establishments. A property developer trying to make a living, and gaining qualifications, hoping that all will go well, but unfortunately he has come up against a problem, which in all honesty the training undertaken, should have allowed him to sort the problem out fairly easily.
Personally I don't think we should knock the individual in this case, it's obvious that the training he has undertaken, was a waste of time and money, maybe his fault, I'm not sure, but OP you need to take stock and employ someone who has the experience and underpinning knowledge to help you out, sorry but that's how I see the problem. Good luck.

That's all very well Pete, but what cheeses me off is the fact that some poor sod is giving this joker his hard earned £££'s and expecting him to do the job as no doubt advertised.

 

[Pete999]

That's all very well Pete, but what cheeses me off is the fact that some poor sod is giving this joker his hard earned £££'s and expecting him to do the job as no doubt advertised.

Totally agree Mate, I was only expressing my take on the issue, maybe some Policing is required, it cheeses me off as well but unless steps are taken to stop this type of scam, all one can do is state their disapproval, feel for the OP but??????????????????????????????/

 

[buzzlightyear]

I wonder y

 

[LankyWill]

This is embarrassing I could of sorted this as a second year apprentice, paying money for a qualification does not give you the mental aptitude required or the practical skill.

Advertising yourself as an electrician and conning the general public into paying for your somewhat limiting skills is what makes this situation sad. Give up before you do someone harm.

 

[Toneyz]

Does your P.L.insurance cover you for this work?

 

[buzzlightyear]

Rkeane (old)! please dont stand behind a close door and dont say any thing ! please step forward. And put some input in.