18th edition exam - my thoughts

[Pete999]

According to the regs the 18th came into effect on the 1st Jan 2019

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That settled the argument nicely Spoon.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

According to the regs the 18th came into effect on the 1st Jan 2019

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According to the regs the 18th is intended to come into effect on the 1st Jan 2019.
This is a FAQ for the 2391 exam:
This qualification helps you to develop the knowledge and practical skills required to professionally carry out inspection and testing on electrical installations. Intended for experienced electricians who have never gained formal qualifications in inspection and testing or who may wish to update and reaffirm their skills. There are separate pathways available for just Initial Verification (2391-50) or just Periodic Inspection and Testing (2391-51) should they be required.Assessment takes the form of a 2 hour online 60 question open book multiple choice exam. You are allowed to take a copy of BS7671:2008(2015), On Site Guide and IET Guidance Note 3 into the exam. A non programmable calculator would also be advisable. There is also a separate Practical Assessment, that is booked on an individual basis and is NOT part of the 4 days of the course.

Note that the edition allowed in the exam is the 3rd amendment, not the 18th.

 

[Spoon]

According to the regs the 18th is intended to come into effect on the 1st Jan 2019.

Very true mate.
Is also states that "Installations designed after 3 lst December 2018 are to comply with BS 767l:2018." Which pretty much means that it comes into effect on the 1st Jan 2019.

 

[Spoon]

The reason given, is that the 18th doesn’t come into force until July 1st.

Your above post doesn't mention anything about 1st July 2019. Where did this come from?

 

[Tony Reidy]

Out of curiosity, there do you get the 2 years from?

Out of curiosity, there do you get the 2 years from?

I used the word" about " and was told that at my recent assessment

 

[Spoon]

I used the word" about " and was told that at my recent assessment

Very true mate, you did use the word "about".
I would say that your assessor was wrong.

 

[Charlie_]

I think you need a hyphen in there somewhere...
----essor.. that’s better

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Your above post doesn't mention anything about 1st July 2019. Where did this come from?

When I sat my 2391 exam, I was told that there would be no questions relating to any changes in the 18th.
They said I could use either the 3rd amendment book or the 18th, because there would only be questions that had answers in both editions.
They told me that this is because both editions are still in force until the 1st July.

I’ve not seen or heard anything about this elsewhere.

Perhaps they meant that the City and Guilds hadn’t got round to updating their exam yet, and that they’ll be issuing new exam questions on the 1st July?

I was told that some questions had been removed from the exam, specifically those relating to the boxes on the schedule of test results and the test button on RCDs.

 

[Tony Reidy]

Very true mate, you did use the word "about".
I would say that your assessor was wrong.

Well if he was wrong then I will have to take it before my next assessment and that will be in 11 months time

 

[Deleted member 105166]

There are lots of online resources that still make reference to the 17th Ed. probably for the simple reason they haven't been updated. In fact, on this forum, the "Wiring, Theories & Regulations" section preface still reads "Discussions on all electrical regulations in the UK. Including Part P, BS 7671, DPC BS7671:2008, BS 7671:2001 & 2004 Amendment No.2, IEE wiring regulations, 16th Edition and 17th Edition."

 

[Tony Reidy]

Well if he was wrong then I will have to take it before my next assessment and that will be in 11 months time

I did also check this out before my assessment an was told the same so who is right

 

[Charlie_]

I think it probably just depends on the rules of who you are paying hundreds of pounds a year to...
For them just to check you know how to read a book..
the whole thing is embarrassing really.

 

[Tony Reidy]

I think it probably just depends on the rules of who you are paying hundreds of pounds a year to...
For them just to check you know how to read a book..
the whole thing is embarrassing really.

I'm with the NIC and it isn't cheap, I showed on my last assessment l had a good working knowledge of the 18th edition

 

[Red Tony]

I'm surprised it's still a multi choice exam.
I bet some ppl pass doing ip.....dip.....dip!

 

[123]

If I remember correctly NIC EIC couldn't get certs up to speed for EICR's when they became part of the regs. So they let members use the old PIR certs until they got their --- into gear. Looks like C&G are no different.