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Scotty_B

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Forgive me as I know pretty much nothing regarding electrical work but I'm sure someone on this forum can help me out.

I've own an ex-council garage which is at the top of my street.*It uses a low power bulb so i guessing it doesn't have a 240v feed.


Does anyone know anything about the likely powers source as I want to add a strip light and possibly power a hoover.

Took some photos of what I have:






Could I wire in a socket aswell?

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That little lot isn't really suitable for powering anything IMHO.

I would retain the services of a qualified spark to come and have a look and advise you accordingly.
 

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I agree, you're a brave man even taking the cover off that box. That is very old cotton insulated cabling and I would assume its live at 230v until proven otherwise. You're going to need an qualified guy to help you out on this one I'm afraid.
 

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I used to rent one of these places. It was one in a block of 10 garages & they had no power it them whatsoever.

Some young lads rented the one on the end of the block to use as a drinking den & whatever. Right next to this garage, was the only streetlight on the whole block & these lads tapped into it to provide leccy in their garage for lighting & an electric fire.

Now I'm not suggesting for one moment that the OP does the same thing ..... :nono:
 

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I'm having a wild guess that your local borough council has not seen the need to use any of your hard earnt council tax to upgrade its own assets.You need two things,a qualified spark (permission sought by L.A) and a pedal generator (i use my 10 year old lad) :policeman:
 

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It'll be 240v.
It's unlikely it has a meter for each garage, in fact it may not be metered it may have been assessed, much like street lighting.
It's probably fed from a common supply to all garages, double reds on the fuse, looped to the next garage.
The cost of the power for each was probably included in the original rent.
If you make any enquiries with the Council re upgrade, they will probably disconnect it as they are paying the bill and have responsibility for the whole system.

I'm surprised no-one else has tried to power a compressor from other garages and taken out the main fuse.

Yes asbestos seal, fine if left alone.
Double fuse unit might be of interest to a geeky olde electrical collector.

Be interesting to see how good the earth is thro' that conduit across the fuse(s) unit.
Tangent "T", switch must be underneath, and be a cast box with brass switch toggle switch.

Smashed many of those up in past years.
3/4 conduit, brass 2ba screws,, it's all coming back now.
 
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Scotty_B

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It uses a 60w 24v bulb, not sure if that helps or not.

I'll get onto a pro see whats what.
 

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Scotty I can not imagine any of us on here saying .................yes to that last question

Looking at that GEC accessory I think you could have something there that is post war ,the second world one and could well be 55-60 yrs old. There should be no one on here telling you plug it in and see what happens.
 

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If it is owned by the council and you are renting it then would it be the responsibility of the coucil? I might be wrong but I thought it was.
 

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Phew ...........................please do mate.

What I was trying to say was there is a good chance that something that old will go bang .................but there is a slim chance it might not ................but you will only find that out by giving it a thorough test mate .............
 
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Get a sparks in who can then send a report to your local council to get it all disconnected.

There's already signs of corrosion on the lightswitch/socket combination which if hit by something may break leaveing exposed parts.

It's very likely your local council is unaware of the potential dangerous state of these garages.

edit:didn't read OP properly and missed the 'ex-council' bit so likely no need to contact the council at all.....best option is to go by post #20's advice
 
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As has been suggested by Malcolm and others get an electrician in to sort this little lot out for you. Not any electrician but one that is old enough to know how to deal with these braided cables and the metal conduit installation.

As this is probably a block of garages, it may be prudent to talk to the other owners of these sold off ex-council garages with the intention of giving the block a complete rewire. As if you are in the middle of this block, you are going to be stuck with those old braided cables supplying your garage. They will then be a source of failure at anytime in the future, especially if someone else (other owner) starts messing around with them....
 
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Scotty_B

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I know this is an old thread however...

The lighting is currently a single 60w 24v bulb. Would it be possible to replace the bulb with a 24v LED strip? I realise from the comments above not to touch what's there but the light does work.

Would like a cool light as I've just painted the garage white and look to turn it into a workshop for my bikes etc.
 

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Photo of bulb and holder would be useful here. Daz
 

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If it is a 24V bulb then there must be a transformer somewhere. Either in each garage or at the feed to the first one. Can you find it? Daz
 
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Scotty_B

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Must be in the first garage, no way to access though.

Would a 24v LED bulb work in the socket?
 

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I'd hesitate to advise disturbing things without seeing the lamp holder and doing some testing. Daz
 

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unlikely to be ELV in this scenario with age and setting of install. I wouldnt advise messing with any of the wiring.
 
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