Cpc connection wylex

[westward10]

Tails in swa out

Stick another 10.0 in for the terminal if it fits.

 

[Nigel sparks]

Could you just take the 16mm CPC to a crimp lug bolted to the SWA's banjo and, assuming 3C SWA, also put a lug on the cable's SWA conductor to the same bolt?

i.e. Ignore the switch's through-CPC connection and the box's terminal strip completely.

EDIT: Also you could use a nylock nut if concerned about it coming loose.

Yes I think that is the only option, it’s a lot of extra faff and the switches are not cheap

 

[Nigel sparks]

Stick another 10.0 in for the terminal if it fits.

No only takes a 10 mm

 

[Nigel sparks]

No only takes a 10 mm

Sorry I ment only takes a 16mm

 

[pc1966]

Yes I think that is the only option, it’s a lot of extra faff and the switches are not cheap

Could you knock the existing small terminal block off the box and fix something like this in its place with a pair of machine screws:

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/ced-4-way-earth-block/12386

You might need to have nuts on top and use countersunk heads coming through from the back to is fixes flush though.

 

[Nigel sparks]

Sorry I ment only takes a 16mm

What size cpc should I earth banjo with?

 

[pc1966]

What size cpc should I earth banjo with?

Depends on the fuse I guess. The On-Site Guide table B4 & B5 has smallest CPCs meeting adiabatic limit for fuse and Zs cases.

 

[westward10]

Sorry I ment only takes a 16mm

So this separate terminal will take a 16.0?

 

[Nigel sparks]

Could you knock the existing small terminal block off the box and fix something like this in its place with a pair of machine screws:

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/ced-4-way-earth-block/12386

You might need to have nuts on top and use countersunk heads coming through from the back to is fixes flush though.

That’s a good option it’s a shame I have fifteen to do of these

 

[Nigel sparks]

Depends on the fuse I guess. The On-Site Guide table B5 has smallest CPCs meeting adiabatic limit for fuse and Zs cases.

It will be a 80amp hrs, have seperate cpc so not relying on the armoured

So this separate terminal will take a 16.0?

Sorry no on the switch L and N will take up to 35mm and earth takes 16mm max

What size cpc should I earth banjo with?

 

[westward10]

If it takes10.0 then put a 10.0 into it along with the banjo cpc.

 

[Nigel sparks]

If it takes10.0 then put a 10.0 into it along with the banjo cpc.

No it take a 16mm only and my cpc is 16mm

 

[westward10]

No it take a 16mm only and my cpc is 16mm

This is totally confusing I assume from what you say the separate terminal does not take 16.0?

 

[Nigel sparks]

This is totally confusing I assume from what you say the separate terminal does not take 16.0?

The main earth terminal which is part of the main switch takes a 16mm cpc max, there is a small earth block which will take a 6mm max hope that explains

 

[westward10]

You will have to calculate as to whether fitting a 6.0 to it will satisfy.

 

[pc1966]

That’s a good option it’s a shame I have fifteen to do of these

Could it be fixed physically with one of the box fixing screws, then a 6mm jumper to the box's terminals? Or maybe better just a 10mm jumper to lug on piranha / Earthing nut as quicker than banjo, etc?

 

[Nigel sparks]

Could it be fixed physically with one of the box fixing screws, then a 6mm jumper to the box's terminals? Or maybe better just a 10mm jumper to lug on piranha / Earthing nut as quicker than banjo, etc?

I will get over with unnecessary work as the switch fuse by wylex is very poorly designed

Could it be fixed physically with one of the box fixing screws, then a 6mm jumper to the box's terminals? Or maybe better just a 10mm jumper to lug on piranha / Earthing nut as quicker than banjo, etc?

i still think there are a lot of these installed where the installer thinks the cpc connection is common to the enclosure

 

[westward10]

It really is a terrible design putting in such a small separate terminal however Wylex may have calculated the worst scenario for fault protection and that a 6.0 would satisfy. I would email them.

 

[SparkySy]

They are rubbish considering the price of them, as usual the designer has never had to fit one or they would have noticed the massive cock up with the earth terminal!
The last one of those I fitted I ran the SWA cpc to the earth banjo bolt and lugged the 16mm outgoing on that as well. As stated above an earth nut would probably be quicker!
Sy

 

[Nigel sparks]

It really is a terrible design putting in such a small separate terminal however Wylex may have calculated the worst scenario for fault protection and that a 6.0 would satisfy. I would email them.

Yes but if it’s 100amp supply and both 16mm earth connections are used there is no where to get another earth bond from