UK EICR 521.10.202

[ForkEnigma]

Help please guys.
Im doing a commercial EICR, and there is plastic trunking, and conduit everywhere. Dado trunking also. So going to code it mostly as a 2. But how would one rectify cost effectively? Dado in particular? Conduits are quite easy, as just change the plastic clips to metal.

 

[Strima]

All round band and wall dog screws./

 

[ipf]

Is the dado going to cause access problems if it falls? It is usually on a wall, mostly at worktop height, after all.

 

[radiohead]

I would only code 2 where it may impede emergency access, such as in corridors or over doorways. Otherwise code 3 and no action required.
I do not see how a dado trunking around the perimeter of an office wall (for example) could warrant a code 2.

 

[ForkEnigma]

I would only code 2 where it may impede emergency access, such as in corridors or over doorways. Otherwise code 3 and no action required.
I do not see how a dado trunking around the perimeter of an office wall (for example) could warrant a code 2.

Down to interpretation, for me dado along a length of wall, in fire, can become a trip hazard, if the cables inside have not been metal fixed.

 

[radiohead]

Down to interpretation, for me dado along a length of wall, in fire, can become a trip hazard, if the cables inside have not been metal fixed.

Indeed down to interpretation, but interesting to think that a dado trunking around the inside of an office, wired for arguments sake just 4 years ago, fully compliant at the time, is now considered potentially dangerous by some.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall during that conversation with the client. At least in an escape route a coherent argument can be made for potential danger which a client can understand.

 

[ForkEnigma]

Indeed down to interpretation, but interesting to think that a dado trunking around the inside of an office, wired for arguments sake just 4 years ago, fully compliant at the time, is now considered potentially dangerous by some.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall during that conversation with the client. At least in an escape route a coherent argument can be made for potential danger which a client can understand.

Yeah 18th is great eh?

 

[suffolkspark]

Trouble is the fire service search rooms whilst in contact with walls, so it could still be a danger, I guess all round band within the dado trunking would be easy

 

[ipf]

I think it's taking things to extremes. In walk ways you could get hanging cables causing various problems whereas, against walls, it would be a completely different situation. There could be all sorts of stuff up against walls. Plenty of dado's are above worktops or desks.

 

[pc1966]

You can get metal clips for inside plastic trunking, that might have been used, otherwise it is a way to fix the danger when it is running in escape routes, etc.

 

[richy3333]

Our office has dado trunking around it. The wife’s now threatening to sue me due to the potential hazard ?

 

[ipf]

Our office has dado trunking around it. The wife’s now threatening to sue me due to the potential hazard ?

Seems ‘all round band’ is the answer then.......start from the top down though....to keep her mouth shut during application.

 

[UNG]

Another thrilling installment of the 18th edition meets the fire risk assessment.
While I can understand the need for cables overhead to be secure to prevent entanglement as has already been mentioned a dado trunking doesn't pose the same threat while there may be a slight trip hazard from cables falling to a floor from waist height along a wall a fire will create many more trip hazards than just cables contained in a dado trunking, in a lot of cases now unless there are persons reported the fire brigade do not without good reason enter a building.
Most fires now are fought on a dynamic risk assessment for the first 59 minutes after that they have to have a written risk assessment which as a firefighter mate of mine pointed out that usually results in a lot more damage before the fire is brought under control