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You can see a socket ....
You can't see a buried cable..
You can screw into the live then lick the screw ... if your that way inclined..
No operation of any protective device..
Is this not the point..?

It's sort of the point, if your point was that you cannot possibly protect against every random eventuality and so coding should be realistic based on normal use of the installation. But I don't think that was your intended point, just what I inferred from that.
 
It's sort of the point, if your point was that you cannot possibly protect against every random eventuality and so coding should be realistic based on normal use of the installation. But I don't think that was your intended point, just what I inferred from that.
Why do we fit RCDs for stuff buried in a wall less than 50mm deep if not to guard against things that aren't "normal use"??
 
Because if I am the inspector I am suitably competent, qualified and experienced enough to judge a T&E ‘sub main’ as was described in the original OP as a C3 :)
Ok I accept that point of view.
This is why Im Posting this .. because I value the feedback here.
At this time I'm not completely sure i agree completely.
The thing that worries me is just that we have the current regs for a reason .. this goes against them.
I need to be happy with what I'm doing .. so I seek consensus...not just cost cutting for landlords.
I thank you for your points.
 
Do you know that the T&E is buried at a depth of less than 50mm?

Maybe you can see that it is, or maybe you're guessing?

I had a similar situation recently. As far as I could see it looked like the cable was always over 50mm deep in the wall, but I couldn't inspect the whole run.

I didn't code it, but listed it in the limitations. You'd hope that the people who installed it 5 years ago would've done it properly...
 
With tt anyhow
With tncs or tns yes its additional... but it's still a requirement really unless someone can show me something that says different.

It is a requirement. So is brown sleeving on black cables that are live. Does not make it potentially dangerous if it is missing though does it.
 
Just thinking out loud - if the TT was PME’d then at least the sub-main would have fault protection. I did a job recently where SSE had just been through and upgraded the o/h and were able to provide PME.
 

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