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Customer. one of the lights in the kitchen isnt working after CU change yesterday, the plasterers here, will it be ok for him to plaster.
Have you tried a new bulb (Didn't want to baffle them with lamp)
I haven't got one.
Get one
text 20 mins later. Yes it's the Bulb, thanks .

Good Grief.
 
Sounds about right.
 
I was always taught to look for the simple things first (lamps, fuses, plugged in ... ) - easiest to check, quick to get the answer or rule out. Seems no one gets taught that any more. At the same time, it's a natural reaction to link things that happen at the same time. One of my customers had a new PVC front door installed, wire to the outside light went through the door frame and the light stopped working. It MUST have been the door fitting wot dunnit. Probably was - the vibration of the door install broke the filament in the lamp ... another light bulb moment!

pj
 
Customer. one of the lights in the kitchen isnt working after CU change yesterday, the plasterers here, will it be ok for him to plaster.
Have you tried a new bulb (Didn't want to baffle them with lamp)
I haven't got one.
Get one
text 20 mins later. Yes it's the Bulb, thanks .

Good Grief.

Well obviously that is your fault you should have been doing functional tests!

I am joking btw.
 
I thought the guarantee after a cu install was on the whole system inc bulbs (lamps) , kettles/toasters LOLOLOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like when you get a puncture after your cars just been serviced they give you a new tyre don't they ???????????
 
Well obviously that is your fault you should have been doing functional tests!

I am joking btw.

haha Cheers,
There was a fault on the installation, it's great being experienced, Looked at a socket, saw a twin and earth emerging to a socket on the other side of the room, opened it up, found the neutral nicked on the fixig screw at the back. Dont you wish all faults were as easy to find as this!
 
I thought the guarantee after a cu install was on the whole system inc bulbs (lamps) , kettles/toasters LOLOLOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like when you get a puncture after your cars just been serviced they give you a new tyre don't they ???????????

I always tell my customers the work is fully guaranteed until the check has been cleared! Lol
 
Two weeks after completing a house rewire customer calls me on a Sunday morning. "Every time my husband puts the toaster on it trips the rcd. And its a new toaster from Argos, only 2 weeks old. We didn't have this problem before you put in those rcd things!"

So I went through the process. Have you had any work done? Have you put a nail/screw into a wall? Have you plugged an outside appliance from the kitchen (eg extension cord, light etc.

"No, we've done nothing and my husband wants his toast, he has toast every day so this needs sorting out!"

I'm the kind of man that will go out on a Sunday morning FOC to see if its anything to do with me. Not happy about going out to it, its a 25 mile round trip and me and the wife have got plans for the day. Oh well.

Just before I was about to end the call and say I'll be with you within an hour I asked "have you dropped the toaster? Water got inside? Changed the plug? (husband is a DIY disaster type of man).

"Oh" she says, "might it have anything to do with my husband getting a piece toast stuck yesterday and trying to get it out with a metal knife? He didn't half get a shock from it!"

Thank god you've now got rcds and not a BS3036 board. Anyway whilst laughing to myself I told her to go back to Argos and get it replaced and call me when he makes his toast in the morning, I'm off to the seaside now.

Call in the morning, everything is fine with the new toaster and apologized for calling me on a Sunday when it was his fault. So far from them recommending me I've had a kitchen rewire and a cu change. Told her if she gets me one more cu change I'll buy them a new toaster plus a loaf of bread as a thank-you. That man loves his toast lol.
 
........ speechless...! its always the electricians fault..!

Just one from the industrial side.

Like Paul, phone call Sunday morning at Stupid O’clock. What the hell did you do yesterday?
I’d changed two hydraulic valves, the ram they control holds up about 25 tonnes. There is a danger of it crashing down if the valves are removed.

Befuddled brain got in to gear.
Have you been and looked at the ram?
Yes!
Have you cancelled the permits and read the notes on them?
Yes!
Have you looked at the production office and workshop notice board?
Yes!
You haven’t!
Yes we bloody well have!
I know it’s Sunday but if you phone Boot’s chemists you can get an eye test.
Sod off! Why!

Well if you’d had looked you would have seen there’s six railway sleepers holding the ram up.
 
Put a CU in 2 weeks later gets a call RCD trips evertime I put the iron in and its only 18 months old plus it cost £60 ok will be round in half an hour and took my PAT tester yep you iron has a fault but it cost £60 and its only 18 months old yep but it is still knackered
 
Put a CU in 2 weeks later gets a call RCD trips evertime I put the iron in and its only 18 months old plus it cost £60 ok will be round in half an hour and took my PAT tester yep you iron has a fault but it cost £60 and its only 18 months old yep but it is still knackered
we had it a bit back....kettle tripping the RCD...`but it doesnt do it on the upstairs sockets` she says...OK, 16th edition C/U thinks I....anyway...gets there and yep...there was a fault on the kettle....`but we only got it yesyerday` she says....and? i thought...get a new one from asda love....
 
Had one a few weeks after a rewire once. I'm just on me way out to work and the phone rings, "Everythings dead" she said. So I go through the usual checklist and no nothing works.
Long story short, when I got there I found the whole bloody street was in the middle of a powercut.
Had they not have been so generous with the tea and biscuits at the time of the job I'd have hit them with a callout fee but I ended up with a load of shops to wire so alls well that ends well
 
Call-out last week to a complete re-wire of a property we had done a few months ago, One side of a dual RCD board tripping out. After a brief look asked THE question. "Any work been done recently?" No nothing so a quick few tests at the board proves there`s a fault on the Downstairs RFC .

Now its 11 pm Friday and I`m knackered so, circuit disconnected and I put an extension lead through from the kitchen to the TV and bugger off.

Next day bright and early I start testing each leg of the RFC and find the offending leg, so upstairs into a bedroom, did my Pickfords impression moving furniture and the Lady of the house says "We only had that carpet up yesterday to to put some insulation in the void so my son cant hear the TV in the lounge.

BINGO.

They had run out of screws but had some nice shiny new 6 inch nails in the shed!
 
Put a CU in 2 weeks later gets a call RCD trips evertime I put the iron in and its only 18 months old plus it cost £60 ok will be round in half an hour and took my PAT tester yep you iron has a fault but it cost £60 and its only 18 months old yep but it is still knackered

Seriously hope you didnt charge for this, it dont take much to say 'buy a new iron' ..... you knew it was faulty with the phone call!...
plus id have informed them of the consumer rights act 1979 and got her a free replacement iron. Word of mouth always pays it way ;)
 
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Civilians are idiots. I first fixed a bathroom recently.
When I went back the client had a long list of things that wern't working since my last visit:

No TV's working properly (The plumber had tripped over the coax feed to the booster)
Rear PIR Light permanently on (It was permanently off before, so obviously reenergising the circuit turned it on and the faulty sensor didn't turn it off)
2 outside lights and 2 inside lights not working (all bulbs)
 
Seriously hope you didnt charge for this, it dont take much to say 'buy a new iron' ..... you knew it was faulty with the phone call!...
plus id have informed them of the consumer rights act 1979 and got her a free replacement iron. Word of mouth always pays it way ;)

I agree. Going round there was a waste of time.
 
but sometimes you have to go round. you can tell some people "it's the kettle" on the phone, till you die , but pop round and show them works wonders. if it's local , all a part of good customer relations.
 
Had one a few weeks after a rewire once. I'm just on me way out to work and the phone rings, "Everythings dead" she said. So I go through the usual checklist and no nothing works.
Long story short, when I got there I found the whole bloody street was in the middle of a powercut.
Had they not have been so generous with the tea and biscuits at the time of the job I'd have hit them with a callout fee but I ended up with a load of shops to wire so alls well that ends well
praise be to the gods of DNO!!:wings:
 
but sometimes you have to go round. you can tell some people "it's the kettle" on the phone, till you die , but pop round and show them works wonders. if it's local , all a part of good customer relations.
especially if its someware like headingley in leeds.....a well known student residential area.......its good customer relationships Tel....
 
now you've got me confused. doesn't take much, i know. thought headingley was just a cricket pitch.
 
'Hey Kieran, why isn't this Kettle working' asked the joiner.... Have yo tried plugging it in. Oh and joiners with old Nicad batteries who moan cos youve turned the power off and their batts havent charged 'IT KNACKERS THEM!' Oh sod off and buy something from this Millenium.
 
We had one about 3 weeks ago on a new stable complex that has three flats built in to one end of a barn which house's the main indoor menage and set of stables .
Apparently one of the grooms had received a nasty shock from a light switch in the upstairs flat lounge the night before , the owner had tried it his self in the morning but but could not get one ? :bomb2:
Knowing that it was a plastic switch in a plastic plaster board back box being upstairs with a chip board floor and then a real wood finish to that , i was reasonably sure it was not mains but static .
To add to this we are currently in the busiest time of the busiest year we have ever had and are so far behind schedule it is almost a joke ! ( Taken another six on last month alone , just to keep up !).
So i sent the one that ran the job to find out whats going on ( 90 or so mile round trip and a day away from the current job ! ), and low and behold all is good and on speaking to the groom that got the shock he starts complaining that he is getting electric shocks of of everything he touches even his bed !!!! Static !?

Maybe i am a fool but i would not and feel could not charge for this as we had only finished the job a few weeks/months before , and this is part of the overall service , we even go as far as to offer free extended warranty if i see fit , for example if a rarely used fitting fails , even with in 2-3 years of us doing the job dependent on the site conditions we will have it swapped and fit a new one for at cost only on the labour side .

All of our work is referral , repeat or word of mouth , and this will upset a lot of others out there , but how do you expect to be busy when some of you will not even turn up to a fault that in all probability sometimes was caused by your own hands , with out first telling the customer to go take one if they do not agree to a call out fee first ????????????

I will no doubt draw a lot of criticism for this and will probably not be back on hear again , but for months i have wanted to say this !
I know customers can be both fool's and lying snakes , but they are our bread and butter , would you go back to a garage to buy another new car from them if when the one you have just brought packs up and when you ring them to sort it out the first thing they say is we want £60 to pick it up to have a look at it , if not you can go swing !?

P.S if i have really offended anyone please remember it is not worth getting a ban over when you post a response .
 
especially if its someware like headingley in leeds.....a well known student residential area.......its good customer relationships Tel....

Ha ha Headingley student let's at 8 in the morning, almost guaranteed an eye full. Great when its a female rented house but awful when its a house full of lads, its a lottery really :).


@ Glennsparks, Headingley beer garden tour tomorrow early evening? I know its a school night but I know you want to ;);).
 
but sometimes you have to go round. you can tell some people "it's the kettle" on the phone, till you die , but pop round and show them works wonders. if it's local , all a part of good customer relations.

Correct for some daft reason you have to turn up and point to the kettle and say look every time I switch it on the safety breaker tripps then you get well it was working ok before you changed the CU plus I always inform the customer look you now have safety breakers fitted forget RCD that does not mean a jott and I explain that if it trips it is probably the last thing they switched on ie kettle ,iron ,oven ect and how to prove it unplug it reset safety breaker and try it again. Then I get do you fix ovens then .

And no I did not charge for the visit it just anoys me that I get why bark when you have a dog attitude
 
We had one about 3 weeks ago on a new stable complex that has three flats built in to one end of a barn which house's the main indoor menage and set of stables .
Apparently one of the grooms had received a nasty shock from a light switch in the upstairs flat lounge the night before , the owner had tried it his self in the morning but but could not get one ? :bomb2:
Knowing that it was a plastic switch in a plastic plaster board back box being upstairs with a chip board floor and then a real wood finish to that , i was reasonably sure it was not mains but static .
To add to this we are currently in the busiest time of the busiest year we have ever had and are so far behind schedule it is almost a joke ! ( Taken another six on last month alone , just to keep up !).
So i sent the one that ran the job to find out whats going on ( 90 or so mile round trip and a day away from the current job ! ), and low and behold all is good and on speaking to the groom that got the shock he starts complaining that he is getting electric shocks of of everything he touches even his bed !!!! Static !?

Maybe i am a fool but i would not and feel could not charge for this as we had only finished the job a few weeks/months before , and this is part of the overall service , we even go as far as to offer free extended warranty if i see fit , for example if a rarely used fitting fails , even with in 2-3 years of us doing the job dependent on the site conditions we will have it swapped and fit a new one for at cost only on the labour side .

All of our work is referral , repeat or word of mouth , and this will upset a lot of others out there , but how do you expect to be busy when some of you will not even turn up to a fault that in all probability sometimes was caused by your own hands , with out first telling the customer to go take one if they do not agree to a call out fee first ????????????

I will no doubt draw a lot of criticism for this and will probably not be back on hear again , but for months i have wanted to say this !
I know customers can be both fool's and lying snakes , but they are our bread and butter , would you go back to a garage to buy another new car from them if when the one you have just brought packs up and when you ring them to sort it out the first thing they say is we want £60 to pick it up to have a look at it , if not you can go swing !?

P.S if i have really offended anyone please remember it is not worth getting a ban over when you post a response .

Can't see anything wrong in what you said. Actually agree with you, but doesn't mean we can't have a good moan at customers as well. It's what keeps you sane sometimes!
 
@ dpelectrical. won't get any flak from me over that post. . i had similar... old chap in a cottage. i had fitted a new CU some time ago ( 16th , RCD main switch, 4 circuits). he phoned me at 7.45am. no electric. was 4 miles down the road, so i said, OK, be there in 1/2 hour. got there, reset RCD, no apparent faults. OK says me, " what exactly were you doing when it tripped?" " making a brew" he said. so then i plugs in his kettle, switch on,,,, trip. " got to go to argos then" he says. " looks like it", says me . "0h, while you're here, can you pop next door, she's having a few problems". next door is elderly lady. her son is there, trying to get electric back on. blown 3036 on RFC. 4 hours later, had found 4 faults, bare cpc's, crossed N/E at 2 sockets, nail in cable in wall where she'd hung a picture. £150 in cash , 3 coffees and a ham sandwich.
 
While serving my time we had a job rewiring an old couples house. Come lunchtime my mentor puts his hand in his pocket and tells me to go get some scrann, as I'm heading out the door the old dear asks me where I was going "I'm off to get lunch" says me
"You are not" she replies "Get back upstairs and I'll bring it up in about 5 minutes"
True to her word she brought 2 massive plates of sausage egg beans & chips + a mug of tea each.
We were there 3 days and every day we got a huge feed, as a thank you from us they got a couple of lights and a socket outside and a load more sockets & wall lights inside
 

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