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WELLSIANA

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been asked to price a socket to a Summer house , throwing it out their for any views which may help me decide my course of action , Ideally i would like to get back to the Consumer unit , but its virtually impossible without major structural upset , and can not go external from it either due to the nature of the property . So , what i do have is a Garage Socket , which i am assuming is from the current ring main , on a spur . I thought maybe fitting a fused spur into the line and going off the socket down to the Summer House which is approx 25-30 meters away and feed a socket for a reading light and small heater , problem is the distance and what amps i would have at the Summer house already from a spur , plus the size of SWA i would need , seems a mighty job for a Summer house which could not get further away from a source which is so hard to get to . Any Views ?
 

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Bit worried someone asking these sort of questions are willing to carry out a job that requires notification. A registered sparky would carry out simple cable calcs to work out cable size AND identify where garage socket is fed from.
If you suspect the garage socket is fed by a spur off the ring main, why would you need another spur in line?
 

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been asked to price a socket to a Summer house , throwing it out their for any views which may help me decide my course of action , Ideally i would like to get back to the Consumer unit , but its virtually impossible without major structural upset , and can not go external from it either due to the nature of the property . So , what i do have is a Garage Socket , which i am assuming is from the current ring main , on a spur . I thought maybe fitting a fused spur into the line and going off the socket down to the Summer House which is approx 25-30 meters away and feed a socket for a reading light and small heater , problem is the distance and what amps i would have at the Summer house already from a spur , plus the size of SWA i would need , seems a mighty job for a Summer house which could not get further away from a source which is so hard to get to . Any Views ?
I'm with @KevinH post above.
You want to spur off a spur and run it 30 meters from a circuit that that you are not sure about.????
Please clarify you post mate.....
 
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Ditto on the agreement front.

Lets take a big step backwards...what would you want to power in this hut?

(PS, I hate the word assume.)
 

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I'm with @KevinH post above.
You want to spur off a spur and run it 30 meters from a circuit that that you are not sure about.????
Please clarify you post mate.....
I'm with Kevin and Spoon.
 
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WELLSIANA

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already i laugh , it was just thoughts , just asking views , and sorry no i do not crawl about in lofts to determine where a cable goes , but my assumption is the garage socket is spurred off the ring main like most extra sockets get done , of course i would check if i went any further , it is not already on a spur as in 13amp fused spur . I know full well i can ring up technical if needed but was merely asking views , as for certification hahaha , not many carry that out around here only the big boys , everyone misses that part of the job and saves a fortune ha ha wink
 

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I asked what the estimated load might be. You may recall that we start cable calculations with the answer to trivial issues like that!
 

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already i laugh , it was just thoughts , just asking views , and sorry no i do not crawl about in lofts to determine where a cable goes , but my assumption is the garage socket is spurred off the ring main like most extra sockets get done , of course i would check if i went any further , it is not already on a spur as in 13amp fused spur . I know full well i can ring up technical if needed but was merely asking views , as for certification hahaha , not many carry that out around here only the big boys , everyone misses that part of the job and saves a fortune ha ha wink
Not a lot we can say mate.
From your general outlook on things it looks like you will do whatever you want to do.
Crack on.....
 

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I think the OP is on a wind up. Either that or the electrical installations in Downham Market are decidedly down market.
 

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This is one of the best lines I have read for a while:

...problem is the distance and what amps i would have at the Summer house already from a spur...
 

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This is one of the best lines I have read for a while:

...problem is the distance and what amps i would have at the Summer house already from a spur...
He/She has been making me laugh, so im happy if they carry on...
 

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Hi welsiana,
If I was you I would start by doing the neccissary cable calcs for a cable 25-30 M. Taking into account cable type, if it's buried or not. Voltage drop, current capacity, Fault current etc..

I would then ascertain exactly if that garage socket is a spur from the ring main.

Then I would come up with a cunning plan.

Then I would call a registered insured sparky to do the calcs again and get him to come up with a cunning plan. Then I would instruct him/ her to carry out works at a cost to ensure that they cover there registration and insurance.
Then the sparky could sign off and notify building control in a professional manner.

Pete
 

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plenty of time to sort it out. won't be needed till next summer. could use cat5. 2 cores= 3A, 4 cores =6A. 6 cores=9A. sod it , use all 8 and have the extra capacity up to 12A. don't forget the 13A fuse ( well, that's the closest to 12A). :eek::eek::eek:.
 

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plenty of time to sort it out. won't be needed till next summer. could use cat5. 2 cores= 3A, 4 cores =6A. 6 cores=9A. sod it , use all 8 and have the extra capacity up to 12A. don't forget the 13A fuse ( well, that's the closest to 12A). :eek::eek::eek:.
You're just blinding me with science now o_O:(o_O
 
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Message to moderators,

I hope you don't think the above post is another attack on someone asking a legitimate question. It's not something I usually do.

The question was legitimate and I would have happily given my opinion , however the comment he made about not being registered just got my goat which resulted in my not very constructive reply.

Just wanted to clarify.
 

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I am keeping an eye and waiting too see if the OP comes back on to gauge whether he was joking in #6 or trying a wind up.
 

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Just out of curiosity... How many people have actually admitted its a wind up when they do these types of posts???
They usually come back with "I was only joking..."
 
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