Supply Issues Building Materials ...

[Mike Johnson]

Has inflation really gone that mad, or is it all down to supply and demand, (rhetorical) I can remember buying 100M of 2.5mm T&E for £12.00 from TLC, but then I am as old as telectrix who I am sure will remember that price too.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Has inflation really gone that mad, or is it all down to supply and demand, (rhetorical) I can remember buying 100M of 2.5mm T&E for £12.00 from TLC, but then I am as old as telectrix who I am sure will remember that price too.

I throw out a load of old edmundsons receipts last year (the old hand written ones).

I had 2.5 at £17.00 100m , 1.5 at 13.00 and 1m at a £9 all plus vat , receipts dated back to about 2003 ish

cable certainly was cheap back then…

 

[nicebutdim]

Has inflation really gone that mad, or is it all down to supply and demand, (rhetorical) I can remember buying 100M of 2.5mm T&E for £12.00 from TLC, but then I am as old as telectrix who I am sure will remember that price too.

Metal prices would having an impact and supply of raw materials is probably a significant factor in this instance.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

I watched an interesting video on youtube about the root causes of product shortages and in turn price increases.
This video is well worth a watch, explained it clearly

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Prysmian 2.5 just paid £70 for a roll in screwfix

£64.80 in Rexel this week. They are selling it a few quid below screwfix now. same in denmans.
If you go on to the rexel website this weekend use code flash25 you get £25 off a £150 spend
If you go to Denmans you can get 10% off any order using code CAC8920221 it is meant for people who are on checkatrade but it doesnt crosscheck so happy shopping folks

 

[UNG]

I watched an interesting video on youtube about the root causes of product shortages and in turn price increases.
This video is well worth a watch, explained it clearly

Interesting video but didn't explain very well or give the real reason why ships are queuing up at ports, talking to one of my customers whose works in worldwide shipping the market has become a bit skewed because more ships are being transferred to the routes where there is more money to be made because the shipping rates have increased and are therefore more profitable, then there was the Evergiven blockage in the Suez canal this caused delays to many ships and resulted in ships arriving in ports out of there timetabled sequence which meant they could not neccessarily dock when they wanted to add to this any port issues during their allotted time alongside which delay the unloading / loading and some ships are sailing with containers that should have been unloaded and are leaving containers on the dockside that should have been loaded. As my customer said the Suez canal block will have a knock on effect for many many months while the ports rebuild their schedule jigsaw to maximise the dock meterage they have available to the length of the ships coming into port

 

[Mike Johnson]

Metal prices would having an impact and supply of raw materials is probably a significant factor in this instance.

And the fact that most of the world labour/workforce will no longer work for just a bowl of rice.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Screwfix cable price seems to be holding steady

got a roll of prysmian 2.5 100m yesterday still £70

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

copper has gone down a bit in the last week or two and will slowly work its way back into the suppliers

 

[Rockingit]

Interesting video but didn't explain very well or give the real reason why ships are queuing up at ports, talking to one of my customers whose works in worldwide shipping the market has become a bit skewed because more ships are being transferred to the routes where there is more money to be made because the shipping rates have increased and are therefore more profitable, then there was the Evergiven blockage in the Suez canal this caused delays to many ships and resulted in ships arriving in ports out of there timetabled sequence which meant they could not neccessarily dock when they wanted to add to this any port issues during their allotted time alongside which delay the unloading / loading and some ships are sailing with containers that should have been unloaded and are leaving containers on the dockside that should have been loaded. As my customer said the Suez canal block will have a knock on effect for many many months while the ports rebuild their schedule jigsaw to maximise the dock meterage they have available to the length of the ships coming into port

Brexshaft has also had a massive impact on anything to do with moving goods, even across the UK. I was talking this morning with a client who has a base in Oxford and a base in N.I. They used to just freely send trucks between the two places ad-hoc as both are in the U.K. but now with this EU border down the Irish Sea they actually have to do customs dockets and carnets for every single individual item. It's utter madness.

 

[UNG]

Brexshaft has also The EU punishment squad had a massive impact on anything to do with moving goods, even across the UK. I was talking this morning with a client who has a base in Oxford and a base in N.I. They used to just freely send trucks between the two places ad-hoc as both are in the U.K. but now with this EU border down the Irish Sea they actually have to do customs dockets and carnets for every single individual item. It's utter madness.

Corrected that for you

The EU countries as a punishment have invented so many new taxes to make UK goods so much harder or prohibitively expensive to export to the EU makes it clear what their aim is. On the other side of the coin HMRC are doing similar things on the tax front to imports although with the classification of some goods they seem at odds with other government departments if HMRC get their way with their current stance the price of bananas will be hiked up

 

[Rockingit]

Corrected that for you

The EU countries as a punishment have invented so many new taxes to make UK goods so much harder or prohibitively expensive to export to the EU makes it clear what their aim is. On the other side of the coin HMRC are doing similar things on the tax front to imports although with the classification of some goods they seem at odds with other government departments if HMRC get their way with their current stance the price of bananas will be hiked up

Not the place to get into the brexit debate, however I would suggest that what you are viewing as 'new' taxes etc are simply the reality of trading with other nations outside a trading agreement. As far as, for arguments sake, Italy is concerned, the UK is no different legally now to Kenya. As for the Irish Sea debacle - when a nation can't transit across it's own territory without having to deal with another one, after hundreds of years, because of something it did itself, then it only has itself to blame.

 

[UNG]

Not the place to get into the brexit debate, however I would suggest that what you are viewing as 'new' taxes etc are simply the reality of trading with other nations outside a trading agreement. As far as, for arguments sake, Italy is concerned, the UK is no different legally now to Kenya. As for the Irish Sea debacle - when a nation can't transit across it's own territory without having to deal with another one, after hundreds of years, because of something it did itself, then it only has itself to blame.

What is clear is that we do not trade with the EU as a single block now and every member state is creating new and in some cases punitive taxes to make trading difficult or not worthwhile. That said even when we were in the EU every member state had it's own rules when it came to compliance with EU directives when exporting specialist products, compliance in one member state did not automatically guarantee compliance in another, The sooner more EU member states wake up and smell the coffee and leave the sooner the EU goes down the pan and we can start trading properly with the countries in europe

 

[mattg4321]

Not the place to get into the brexit debate, however I would suggest that what you are viewing as 'new' taxes etc are simply the reality of trading with other nations outside a trading agreement. As far as, for arguments sake, Italy is concerned, the UK is no different legally now to Kenya.

Absolute load of tosh, but a favourite line of the europrats. Of course we are different to Kenya. Nearly every single one of our current standards are aligned with the EU, we have only just left having been part of it since 1976.

It’s their prerogative if they want to disingenuously invent reasons to be awkward, but it’s about one thing only - punishment, partly to make clear to other countries thinking of leaving they will also be punished.

It’s my opinion that in years to come leaving the EU will prove to be a great decision - much like not joining the eurozone which would’ve been a disaster for us. I voted leave with the expectation of a difficult 5-10 years before any benefit was seen. I didn’t foresee such a big benefit as our vaccination program materialising so quickly.

 

[Rockingit]

@UNG - As I said, this is not the thread and clearly you and I have different views - I respect that.

 

[LukeD]

Absolute load of tosh, but a favourite line of the europrats. Of course we are different to Kenya. Nearly every single one of our current standards are aligned with the EU, we have only just left having been part of it since 1976.

It’s their prerogative if they want to disingenuously invent reasons to be awkward, but it’s about one thing only - punishment, partly to make clear to other countries thinking of leaving they will also be punished.

It’s my opinion that in years to come leaving the EU will prove to be a great decision - much like not joining the eurozone which would’ve been a disaster for us. I voted leave with the expectation of a difficult 5-10 years before any benefit was seen. I didn’t foresee such a big benefit as our vaccination program materialising so quickly.

Poland are suffering badly with the EU. Looks like they are not getting what they expected !

 

[UNG]

Poland are suffering badly with the EU. Looks like they are not getting what they expected !

All down to the EU budget which went to stalemate and they then went quiet about it as those countries putting money in didn't want to increase their payments and those taking the money out didn't want to reduce their take

 

[LukeD]

All down to the EU budget which went to stalemate and they then went quiet about it as those countries putting money in didn't want to increase their payments and those taking the money out didn't want to reduce their take

Nope... Poland wanting to keep many of their laws etc and forgetting that under EU laws . These can be removed .So for all the anti brexit stuff that many poles directed at the Brits .Its now their turn to see what happens when you want to have your own rules etc !

 

[Dustydazzler]

2.5 prysmian up to £72 today in screwfix

still a whole £1 cheaper than my local independent cam do

 

[Dustydazzler]

After all the materials inflation fears a few months ago , the price of cable does seem to be holding fairly steady

£71.50 inc vat for 100m of 2.5 prysmian t&e from screwfix this week