What would you do - dodgy builder

[Geordie Spark]

 

[Engineer54]

Maybe it should be about 'no grommets'. Came across this today. The earth sleeving had melted and was solid on the wire...which just dropped off. Shows just how important they are.
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Look carefully and you can see some red pvc near the end of the earth wire.

One bleedin' good reason to totally dismiss the comments in #7

And there was me thinking that the cable sheath should pass through the knockout with or without a grommet being present into the back box. I'd say that the damage to these conductors is a direct a result of bad stripping/termination and arrangement of the cables within the back box, Especially with all 3 cables passing through a single 20mm knockout... Obviously a grommet would have helped, ...well maybe!! lol!!

 

[ipf]

And there was me thinking that the cable sheath should pass through the knockout with or without a grommet being present into the back box. I'd say that the damage to these conductors is a direct a result of bad stripping/termination and arrangement of the cables within the back box, Especially with all 3 cables passing through a single 20mm knockout... Obviously a grommet would have helped, ...well maybe!! lol!!

Aye, maybe:smile5: and every top and bottom knockout removed. It wasn't a dead short....nothing blown, hence the heat effect....and with all the blackening, it's obviously been getting pretty warm. The only reason for removing the socket was to find the supply to an outside lighting controller...so two 4mm's for the ring and a 1.0mm for the lights, straight to the control. Lucky they let me look for it... would have been paying for an unknown internal wall heater.....'till it blew :icon12: ...among other problems.

 

[londonlec]

My NIC assessor saw I had written C3 on an PIR (in those days) for lack of grommets at accessories and told me it should have no code, unless there was damage to the cores. As the bonding plaster would hold the cable in and stop it from chafing.

 

[Plonker 3]

My NIC assessor saw I had written C3 on an PIR (in those days) for lack of grommets at accessories and told me it should have no code, unless there was damage to the cores. As the bonding plaster would hold the cable in and stop it from chafing.

I hope you corrected him of his misunderstanding

 

[ipf]

I hope you corrected him of his misunderstanding

mmmm.....that's it. You only put 'em in when the cores are damaged...

 

[shanky887614]

A high percentage of neutral earth faults I find are caused by cables in sockets etc being squashed against the box entry with no grommets in sight.
to say you don't need them is a bit wrong as they have been about in their current form since at least the 70s.
i prefer grommet strip as its a better fit and doesn't fall out unlike the ****e grommets you get these days.
stay away from niglon strip though .it is terrible

which grommets are you talking about? the blind grommets we use are crap and fall out if you just breathe near them but the open grommets are fine

 

[Silly Sausage]

[h=2]What would you do - dodgy builder[/h]
I'd tell him to Fokker Off.

After asking him which reg is being not adhered to.

 

[highspark]

Is this really worthy of posting, a few missing grommets

Is work quiet, why would you even get involved with this?

its really surprised me that a builder knows what a grommet is as ive never come accross one yet that has used them

For me it was worthy of a post as some plantpot has tried his best to slander my business. Between us sparks a few missing grommets might not be the end of the world but to an unsuspecting customer who's being told she can't sell her home because of it it becomes a big issue! The more I've thought about it the more furious I am. He's blatantly taken grommets out to try and score points.

I've told the customer Under no circumstances will I be second fixing her extension.

 

[highspark]

What would you do - dodgy builder


I'd tell him to Fokker Off.

After asking him which reg is being not adhered to.

Still fuming over it now mate. Feel like going to the property this week to have words

 

[Silly Sausage]

Still fuming over it now mate. Feel like going to the property this week to have words

You should and prove your case, assuming none of your cables are undamaged.
Or, more to the point, let him prove his case, which he won't be able to.
Otherwise the :-------: gets away with it and makes you look bad.