ELECSA Certification Scheme RE: IR, COntinuity and Elecsa assessment

[Guest77]

Oh well that's ok then, shall we use the value of Ze obtained by enquiry instead of measuring that too?

Let's just not bother doing any testing and calculate the whole lot shall we?

After all the magical RCDs will save the day!

:rofl: lol that made me laugh, in Richards defence he is only stating the rules, although they stink regarding calculations of ZS lol

 

[j_wheatley]

thanks lee, so calculation is acceptable. I just need to retest the cooker R1+R2 as this reading is way off. mdj, as for only having to have 5 weeks under my belt and a cash payment, not entirely right for me anyway, did start this whole process a while ago but with having to hold down a full time job, and not even being able to get any experience by offering to work for free, just studying the books cannot give me all the knowledge I need. doesn't mean im going to get a self certifying scheme under my belt and go around doing things out of my league but I have to make a start somewhere. at least it means I can get going and build practical knowledge to go with the theory that way I can make a career myself, not cut corners and establish a good name and working practice if I could have afforded to be an apprentice that's what I would have done, but it didnt work out that way so this is how I have to do it. as long as I work safely and check, double check and triple check my work I don't think im doing wrong. thanks for your replies

 

[Guest77]

well how much experience on site have you obtained?

 

[Leesparkykent]

thanks lee, so calculation is acceptable. I just need to retest the cooker R1+R2 as this reading is way off. mdj, as for only having to have 5 weeks under my belt and a cash payment, not entirely right for me anyway, did start this whole process a while ago but with having to hold down a full time job, and not even being able to get any experience by offering to work for free, just studying the books cannot give me all the knowledge I need. doesn't mean im going to get a self certifying scheme under my belt and go around doing things out of my league but I have to make a start somewhere. at least it means I can get going and build practical knowledge to go with the theory that way I can make a career myself, not cut corners and establish a good name and working practice if I could have afforded to be an apprentice that's what I would have done, but it didnt work out that way so this is how I have to do it. as long as I work safely and check, double check and triple check my work I don't think im doing wrong. thanks for your replies

Yes calculation is an allowable method to determine Zs. As Richard pointed out in #2 Ze+(R1+R2) will give you the worst case value.

 

[Simonslimline]

Calculating Zs will not highlight any high resistances that may be present through MCB's etc.

Always best to directly measure it.

 

[Guest77]

Thats my boy, the Trainees know more than a lot of the sparks here chuckle

 

[Leesparkykent]

Thats my boy, the Trainees know more than a lot of the sparks here chuckle

Yawn..

 

[j_wheatley]

testing hardly anything which is where I want to gain more experience, I've worked installing external lighting and its maintenance for 10 years, where I could get it ive got experience on house rewires, new circuit installs, boiler installation, downlight installs. these are few and far between though.

 

[Guest77]

Yawn..

Hey Lee you love the banter really

 

[Leesparkykent]

Hey Lee you love the banter really

Yeah i do really lol :icon12:

 

[Guest77]

testing hardly anything which is where I want to gain more experience, I've worked installing external lighting and its maintenance for 10 years, where I could get it ive got experience on house rewires, new circuit installs, boiler installation, downlight installs. these are few and far between though.

my advice to you is to attempt to obtain work as an Electricians mate for 2-3 years on site before actually going into someones home and installing wiring because you do not know how to test it and assess if it is safe to leave, you have no testing experience and no installation experience except installing outside lights, you are not qualified and pose a risk to householders at the moment.

 

[j_wheatley]

ok cheers. thanks for the advice.

 

[Guest77]

ok cheers. thanks for the advice.

your very welcome, good luck.