Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

[Had8Lives]

Saw this in the Gents today. Now why not just drill a hole in the moulded knockout? Nope I'm gonna drill it on an angle and not even fill round the conduit with sealant lol

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[Had8Lives]

Here's a pic showing where the proper entry hole is. Why didn't they just rotate the light base?

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[LeeH]

Trunking is so yesterday.

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[Had8Lives]

Trunking is so yesterday.

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They might at least have put a piece of cardboard round it if the wholesaler had closed for the day when they realised they didn't have enough trunking lol

 

[Wilko]

An easy mistake without testing perhaps?
Job to add power shower to 2nd bathroom yesterday. Full bathroom refurb so just first fix, but nothing else on so I thought I'd poke about. Board is plastic twin RCD all good numbers TNCS, I look at existing power shower and see it's been connected with flex to plug (wrong fuse) into a single outlet RCD socket (in another room). Plug in trusty tester ... no eflc reading or RCD test. Oops, busted my tester ? Take RCD outlet off wall and find the cpc neatly connected to the mounting screws but not the earth pin. Def no earth carried forward in flex to the power shower.

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[Bobster]

Now that just seems like a terribly bad design. Why on earth would they want to keep them separate.

 

[DPG]

I must be missing something here. Manufacturing issue with the socket surely.

 

[SparkyChick]

I don't get it... why would you do that? Would be interesting to see the installation instructions to see what they recommend, may shed some light on the thinking, but I re-iterate... I just don't get it.

 

[Wilko]

Now that just seems like a terribly bad design. Why on earth would they want to keep them separate.

Agree, gave me a moment when I thought tester had died ...
Here's a pic from different angle. From the side it's clearly NC, but from the back, not quite so. The unit is pristine and works fine, tested in the bat cave this morning

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[DPG]

I see it is even labelled as SE. Have you still got the instructions that came with it?

 

[Wilko]

No instructions I'm afraid. I had a quick look online for Volex VT1108 Protector RCD but couldn't find anything useful.
Owner been in house 5 years and had CU dual RCD upgrade done, but this RCD unit and power shower was put in sometime before, by looks about 10yrs ago. Messrs Shower and CU clearly hadn't tested this socket when they did their work, tut tut. I found another one of these RCD on ebay with exactly the same earth design, so it's not a one off

 

[DPG]

Hopefully one us will realise the reason for this obviously intentional feature and then we can all kick ourselves for not thinking of it sooner!

 

[Taylortwocities]

It looks to me like that is the functional earth, so you have an option to remove it.

In the dim distant past i remember trying to install one of these (Volex?) RCD FCUs. It was a slightly different design and the instructions had been copied so many times they were unreadable. IIRC the RCD would trip under load if you earthed the wrong terminal. It was a pile of poo then, and it seems that time has not improved anything.....

 

[Wilko]

The way it was wired, the only time it could trip was if the 30mA actually went to earth through a carbon based life form. Hopefully.

 

[SparkyChick]

Well, I was so intrigued I sent Volex an email... it's for when you have different earths, such as a clean earth in a hospital. The metal work will probably not be clean, but the power would be.

 

[Bobster]

Well, I was so intrigued I sent Volex an email... it's for when you have different earths, such as a clean earth in a hospital. The metal work will probably not be clean, but the power would be.

Normally with devices that have this functionality you have to remove a link to make them separate.

 

[DPG]

Not a good idea being separate by default. As proved by the way it had been installed.
Good research though SChick !
Daz.

 

[HandySparks]

Looks to me as though it was one piece of sheet metal with a joggle between the two levels just next to the top earth terminal. Could be that the metal has fractured at the bends and a piece has fallen out. Pretty bad manufacturing. Bends too tight or metal is the wrong grade and not sufficiently malleable.

 

[DPG]

Looks to me as though it was one piece of sheet metal with a joggle between the two levels just next to the top earth terminal. Could be that the metal has fractured at the bends and a piece has fallen out. Pretty bad manufacturing. Bends too tight or metal is the wrong grade and not sufficiently malleable.

It's intentional. The other terminal is even marked up differently

 

[HandySparks]

It's intentional. The other terminal is even marked up differently

If it's intentional, then it's pretty weird. The second earth terminal will only be earthing the backbox which, if metal, will generally have its own earth terminal anyway.

 

[DPG]

See sparkychick's post above for the answer.

 

[Had8Lives]

Saw this yesterday at M5 Taunton Deane services. I can imagine the conversation before it was done lol
Mate: "How we doing this then boss?"
Boss: "Ermm did we chuck that off cut of ducting support?"
Mate "Don't think so, might be a bit short though?"
Boss : "naaah, it a be awwriigghhtt"

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[westward10]

Saw this in Port Talbot couple of weeks back and it is not dumped it actually runs, not electrical but was wondering if SparkyChick has an MOT for it.

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[DPG]

It's the in-thing now the rust-bucket look. There's companies specialising in doing rust effect paint jobs. Some of the American pick-ups look pretty good. Not sure about this one though!

 

[David M]

It's the in-thing now the rust-bucket look. There's companies specialising in doing rust effect paint jobs. Some of the American pick-ups look pretty good. Not sure about this one though!

Yeah, I've also seen houses clad in rusty tin sheets, million pound properties that look like rusty old farm sheds! The world has gone mad!

 

[SparkyChick]

Saw this in Port Talbot couple of weeks back and it is not dumped it actually runs, not electrical but was wondering if SparkyChick has an MOT for it.

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How could you publish my numberplate??? The only identifying feature of my vehicle, now everyone will know what car I'm driving

 

[LeeH]

I believe it has been 'ratted'

 

[DPG]

Some nice rat bikes around as well. Have a Google.

 

[Wilko]

I believe it has been 'ratted'

Back in the day, we'd call that rust ... it came f.o.c.

 

[LeeH]

Yes, my van bumper has contracted 'tin worm' but if the rat look is in, that's how I'm rolling.

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Tel would be proud of me but I think he hates the Blue oval, it's not a hiace.

 

[FatAlan]

Have VW brought out a biodegradable car?

 

[FatAlan]

Have VW brought out a biodegradable car?

If they have I think British Leyland beat them to it in the 70's

 

[Taylortwocities]

If they have I think British Leyland beat them to it in the 70's

And most of the Italian motor industry at that time too!

 

[Dave OCD]

Some nice rat bikes around as well. Have a Google.

Not my thing at all Daz, I'm the opposite.

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[DPG]

Very nice that Dave. Better colours than the usual scheme. This is mine:

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[Resu]

Lighting tower JB. That explains why it's not working!

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10mm submains at a hotel:

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[Dave OCD]

Very nice that Dave. Better colours than the usual scheme. This is mine:

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Thanks Daz, yeah it's a lovely bike, can't wait to get out on it again. The Versys is a great bike, I had an ER6f with the same engine as yours....

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[DPG]

Nice one. Yes - pretty much same bike the ER6. Nice. This is the other one:

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[Rpa07]

How loud is that @DaveOCD?

 

[Rpa07]

Rotax - nice DPG!

 

[DPG]

Rotax engine in Armstrong bike yes. A 500CC single 4 stroke. Kick-start only.

 

[Dave OCD]

Nice one. Yes - pretty much same bike the ER6. Nice. This is the other one:

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I like that, 500cc single ? Looks like a lot of fun ! Now I have to show you my other one before we get in trouble for hijacking the dodgy trade pics thread !

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[DPG]

Very nice. Can't go wrong with Honda. Loved my VFR800 but it gave me neckache!

 

[Dave OCD]

Yeah I had a 2005 Blade but only for a year, brilliant bike but far too easy to hit crazy speeds and horribly uncomfortable.

 

[Dave OCD]

How loud is that @DaveOCD?

Which one mate, the Kawasaki ?

 

[Rpa07]

Which one mate, the Kawasaki ?

Suzuki with those cans or lack of!

 

[Rpa07]

Don't see many around these days - used to be a time where they'd be infrequent but still seen.

Rotax engine in Armstrong bike yes. A 500CC single 4 stroke. Kick-start only.

 

[DPG]

Don't see many around these days - used to be a time where they'd be infrequent but still seen.
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Yeah not many around. Interesting bikes. Always gets a lot of attention!

 

[Dave OCD]

Suzuki with those cans or lack of!

Ah you'd think that but it's actually pretty quiet- the silencer is in the collector box underneath on this bike, although on the throttle as the revs rise it sounds great as a butterfly valve opens up. The Honda is much louder with the Akra can and 'de cat' link pipe, sounds brilliant.

 

[Dave OCD]

Lighting tower JB. That explains why it's not working!

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10mm submains at a hotel:

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4 x high frequency electronic ballasts ? Interestingly it's a plastic enclosure and didn't catch fire though ?