Are you based in Frimley????????

[Octopus]

So I got a call from a customer asking me about something I did in Feb 16 - so I duely paid a visit. Knowing they had had some work done I asked if I could see the certificate..... as I didn't take mine with me!

Now bearing in mind a new fuseboard had been fitted, the kitchen had been hacked around, downlights had been fitted and a wall removed I was expecting an detailed EIC........

Er no, the EIC simply said replacement fuseboard..... which had all 10 "slots" used.

This is a photo of the test results sheet.........

Sorry its side ways

Anybody want to play "spot the mistake / ommision / unusual entry" with me?

 

[Strima]

R1 is a tad high...

 

[westward10]

Ring final 9 appears to be rather long and open circuit on the lines. Seems they didn't loop it either or several of the others.
They also have 4.0 cpcs on the 6.0 cables, assuming T&E.
No IR readings.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

How many DBs are there if this is #1?
How is measured Zs N/A for RCDs?

 

[streamer]

Ring final 9 appears to be rather long and open circuit on the lines.

And it seems to be wired in 6mm!

 

[Wilko]

I have done a couple of jobs in Frimley, so my heart skipped a beat ...

 

[Octopus]

I was wondering what Nt meant?
Why only 9 circuits are listed, yet there are 10!

 

[westward10]

Not Tested.

 

[Octopus]

Is that an acceptable entry for an EIC, especially as it was a new circuit.

 

[westward10]

From what I can see there are no tests whatsoever for those two circuits.

 

[KEV 1 N]

Dear me, I could have fabricated a better test sheet sitting at home with a cuppa!
Not supposed to put LIM on an EIC.
There's and old saying "If it looks right, then it is right"
This clearly isn't right.

 

[WillWX]

Is it just me or why even bother filling one out?!

 

[Wilko]

It's not just you ... I'd be suggesting to Client the last lot should return and provide one done to standard. If they hesitate, perhaps offer to email original to their CPS for review

 

[Octopus]

I was wondering about forwarding a copy to Elecsa .. I do have his details and number!

 

[westward10]

You probably need to pose any queries you have to him first.

 

[ipf]

How many DBs are there if this is #1?
How is measured Zs N/A for RCDs?

How is it applicable?

 

[Sparkingmad]

How can they tick polarity on the circuits they haven’t tested or entered results for R1+R2 or Max ZS reading? Ring Circuit 9 20000 so near enough useless continuity on R1, the list of errors and inconsistency just keeps getting worse. So what was the IPf at that board left blank too.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

How is it applicable?

To start with, the form asks for the maximum allowed by BS7671.
I guess technically none of it is applicable as the certificate is for a board change.
I wonder why it’s applicable for one RCD, but not for the other two?
It’s also odd that they conducted no IR tests.

 

[Sparkingmad]

I was wondering about forwarding a copy to Elecsa .. I do have his details and number!

Maybe get the customer to get in touch with elecsa and send a copy of that cert complete with installer name and number and ask them to confirm if that certificate is genuine.

 

[Ian1981]

To start with, the form asks for the maximum allowed by BS7671.
I guess technically none of it is applicable as the certificate is for a board change.
I wonder why it’s applicable for one RCD, but not for the other two?
It’s also odd that they conducted no IR tests.

I think he means you don’t measure a zs for the rcd hence the box is marked N/A on the certificate for both.
Also why would you write 1667 ohms for a 30mA rcd for maximum zs when that referes to the touch voltages not rising above 50 volts it’s not really applicable to the certificate in my opinion, at least that is I’ve never wrote it in unless the rcd is proving fault protection as the sole means such as a TT system.