Condu-lok , the evolution of fitting tube

[ipf]

I still don't see how if installed correctly with the boxes fixed to the wall and conduit fixed in place with saddles how a grub screw securing the box to the tube is inferior to a thread.
The thread is literally just there to keep the box on the tube

What if it's not fixed to the wall....dropping down from trunking or out from a wall to a machine?
There are all sorts of situations where it would be inferior. It's simply not as strong and more easily open to damage.
If you can't see it, fair enough.

 

[Dustydazzler]

What if it's not fixed to the wall....dropping down from trunking or out from a wall to a machine?
There are all sorts of situations where it would be inferior. It's simply not as strong and more easily open to damage.
If you can't see it, fair enough.

I get that , and that is why there will always be the very odd occasion where you need to thread on a box but in my experience I could use condu-lok 99% of the time with no issue what so ever

 

[LastManOnline]

I know lots of old time sparks who hated wagos when they first came over and they said would never use them as they didn't trust them... Guess what , they all use wagos now

Good analogy.Change takes time.Heres my experience with the Wago.

First impression.."no brainer".imported them from the continent. Unavailable here.
In late 1990,s an engineer reported me to the regulatory body for carrying out installations according to "continental standards".During the investigation it transpires I was one of 2 sparks using them in ROI.Am cleared of wrongdoing. Early 2000,s persuaded my wholesaler to stock them.They did for 2 years but no one bought them except me.."too expensive". Mid 2000,s , I,m back to importing them from continent.Late 2000,s you can literally get them them at the corner shop..happy days!

 

[nicebutdim]

I would like to know though how it compares in terms of IP rating for external use.

This is a question I'd also like to know the answer to, although I assume it doesn't compare without the application of some form of gunk. While I can see clear advantages, IP rating isn't one of them

 

[Dustydazzler]

This is a question I'd also like to know the answer to, although I assume it doesn't compare with the application of some form of gunk. While I can see clear advantages, IP rating isn't one of them

My guess is its designed for internal / covered areas

 

[LewisM]

Can be used outside but you have to use silicone or equivalent round the spout

 

[Dustydazzler]

Sealing around spout with a dob of mastic is certainly a good idea if there is any risk of water ingress , but if you were to install a load on condu-lok stuff outside I would like to think there was a purpose made gasket or something to pop in the entry to stop water getting inside...

 

[SparkySy]

I can see advantages with using it for speed, I think sikaflex or similar would be a good sealant if they don't make an IP rated adaptor.
Can this tube be threaded like standard conduit, I take it the external dimensions are the same? If so you could do any external fittings with standard and cross to condu lok inside!
Anyone got a link to the website my phone is only bringing up suppliers?
Sy

 

[snowhead]

Anyone got a link to the website my phone is only bringing up suppliers?
Sy

It's manufactured by Demoncato (no website) who also produce Rapidsaddle and Rollatray

Which is owned by Metpro, StackPath - https://www.metpro.co.uk/category/conlok

There's more info on this suppliers site than there is on Metpro,
20mm CONLOK (Non Threaded) Galvanised Conduit Fittings | CONLOK - Electrical Ironmongery - https://www.electricalironmongery.co.uk/product/20mm-conlok-non-threaded-galvanised-conduit-fittings/

 

[SparkySy]

That's answered a few questions, thanks for the links @snowhead !

 

[pirate]

I watched an American video recently about wiring a shed, which, according to local codes, needed the wiring to be in steel conduit, albeit it was installed behind the drywall finish. The guy used a similar system, but with screws with a slotted head rather than a grub screw. I feel a grub is better, more secure.
For fun, I simply mention that steel tube secured by grub screws has been a thing...though not for electrical work, for decades. I started using it 50 years ago, and most recently 6 months ago to install safety rails around a building, with, I think, 50mm tube. Threading those would have been a tricky job, but we used Kee Klamps, same as I used 50 years ago, and same as installed throughout your town centre as railings at pedestrian crossings etc. I love 'em!

Kee Klamp® Key Clamp Fittings Galvanised Fittings | Buy Online Direct From Kee Systems

Kee Klamp® Key Clamp Fittings Galvanised Fittings Offer A Flexible, Versatile Solution For The Construction Of Structures Such As Handrails, Safety Barriers And Guardrails.

keesystems.com

 

[snowhead]

That's answered a few questions, thanks for the links @snowhead !

Took a bit of chasing down, ended up on companies House

 

[SparkySy]

No wonder my primitive web skills failed me

 

[AJshep]

I can see the advantages of this especially if your adding to and existing system, but I really don't see that much of an issue with threading.
I had to do some Galv the other day and threading it was effortless, that was using a cheap TLC stock and die set too.

 

[nicebutdim]

I turn up and use whatever is supplied. If it needs threading, then it'll be threaded, and if its conlok it'll be fixed with a grub screw. Most important factor is that I get paid.

 

[LukeD]

Its a good product if used correctly . Bit of CT1 etc will keep the weather out . Do guys use PTF tape on threaded to stop water etc coming in ??

 

[ipf]

Its a good product if used correctly . Bit of CT1 etc will keep the weather out . Do guys use PTF tape on threaded to stop water etc coming in ??

PTF's for keeping the water IN......not too good for earth continuity..........although, if there's no earth fault there's no leakage either way, I suppose.