Cowboy builders

[sparks1234]

Has anyone just seen it and anyone have any comments about the light that was installed

 

[flukey]

Has anyone just seen it and anyone have any comments about the light that was installed

cant see the problem thats exactly how i install mie by spurring off the ring lol

 

[jase]

didnt see it, was he australian? saw loads of stuff out there like that

 

[Spa Key]

Am I remembering incorrectly, or did the sparky say something along the lines of "Part P says this has to be at least 600mm from the sink"?

 

[pushrod]

Yep i saw it . He said it has to be 50 or 60 cm from the sink !

Also said something about all the pipes and sink could become live, but didn't show him looking to see if there was any bonding.

Mind the work outside looked pretty crap as the hole hadn't been sealed and the cable appeared to go straight into the light, so that water could run straight in.

Did the part P guy also say the cable should have been covered though?

 

[eddielarge]

yes the part p the guy stated that it should be between 50and 60cm and then banged on about that if the live wire was to to short out on the copper pipe it would be fatal,, didnt mention that the t & e had two layers of insulation so this was very unlikely, and didnt mention that the bonding and rcd would save you..

i did laugh thou that he used an old box from an old job with an hole in it,,

 

[eddielarge]

Yep i saw it . He said it has to be 50 or 60 cm from the sink !

Also said something about all the pipes and sink could become live, but didn't show him looking to see if there was any bonding.

Mind the work outside looked pretty crap as the hole hadn't been sealed and the cable appeared to go straight into the light, so that water could run straight in.

Did the part P guy also say the cable should have been covered though?

yes i think he was hopeing to get a copex into the back of the lights lol

 

[Spa Key]

Did the part P guy also say the cable should have been covered though?

Yep.

Why is this sort of thing allowed on TV? It's not the first time this sort of misinformation has been aired on these types of programs.

 

[rocker]

Oh 'ang on, are you saying the show's 'expert' was saying it needs to be 600mm away?

 

[eddielarge]

Oh 'ang on, are you saying the show's 'expert' was saying it needs to be 600mm away?

you got it in one,,,

 

[rocker]

Jeez Louise. Maybe someone should write in (but not me).

 

[eddielarge]

jeez louise. Maybe someone should write in (but not me).

coward:d

 

[rocker]

I'll admit it. Lazy also.

 

[DurhamSparky]

what they did not show was if the light actually worked???

what's wrong with T&E into a light, long as a drip loop and seal are adequate for job!! mind you i much prefer rubber flex sits in the gland nice and tight

wonder if he sized the light correctly with a 3amp fuse!

noticed no mention of NIC / Elecsa / Napit... Just part P!! least its a step in right direction..! 50-60cm from sink! washing dishes and then dying for turning ya light on!

does it matter how far it is away from sink if you turn lights on with wet hands!!???


oh nice shot of Mel Messengers buttock!!

 

[Phil]

i think i should rip all my light fittings and sockets off so i can get melinda round to my place to sort me out. i mean sort the electrics out

 

[joethepudding]

Last year I was fuming after an episode of rouge traders, they were discussing electrical installations and there “expert” said you should always use a spark from the NIC.

My misses had thought id gone mad as a jump up swearing at the TV.

I found the names of the producers (both women) and written to both of them. It started off well, stating that I could well lose a lot of business if all my clients started saying “we are only going to use NIC sparks”

But sadly by the end of the letter I had lost my temper and was ranting about them being bra burners and had they been screwed by a trades man in the past.

Fair play to the complaints , they written back with an apology and didn’t mention my rant.

I have decided not to watch them any more, after last weeks expert was plastering over wall paper!!! My blood pressure is getting worse!

 

[flukey]

Last year I was fuming after an episode of rouge traders, they were discussing electrical installations and there “expert” said you should always use a spark from the NIC.

very good advice, but then i am nic

i liked the episode of diy sos when billy, also nic said everybody knows cables only ever run north to south

 

[sparkswillfly]

call melinda for erections (electrical of course)

 

[horsleya]

I wonder if the expert is a member of this forum?

I would be nervous about posting anything stupid on this forum let alone going on national TV.

 

[DurhamSparky]

do you think he would come forward..! i think not.!

 

[chris gray]

repeated tonight if you missed it

 

[Spudnik]

I think the biggest problem with these kinds of programs is that everything is blown out of all proportion.

Yes, i am sure there are major issues with a lot of the works, and it makes good telly, and of course, viewing figures.

 

[ghost]

I missed this, I didn't realise there was a new series. Always good viewing just for the totty value.
Repeated on Sunday at 13.10 on 5, My sky+ is set. Let the comedy begin.

 

[acat]

Dont get to carried away with it as Jason said its all out of proportion. The way they put it across that people were frightened to speak out incase of recriminations I was expecting to see someone that was 6ft 12 and build like a brick wall not someone that had mislaid his zimmer frame


Chris

 

[eds]

Haha I just watched the repeat of this show having already seen last Thursdays viewing. Looks like channel 5 must of had complaints about the Part P 'expert' lol. They had edited out the bit about sockets needing to be 50-60cm away from the sink

 

[eds]

Thank god they didnt edited out Melindas butt lol

 

[rocker]

Haha I just watched the repeat of this show having already seen last Thursdays viewing. Looks like channel 5 must of had complaints about the Part P 'expert' lol. They had edited out the bit about sockets needing to be 50-60cm away from the sink

Beat me to it.

 

[ghost]

Yeah, I watched it today too. Nice ---.

 

[Bromd123]

do you think he would come forward..! i think not.!

IT WAS ME !!!

Only Kidding tee heee

 

[Phil]

Thank god they didnt edited out Melindas butt lol

if they do need to edit that bit i have offered my professional services to cover it with my hands

 

[Phil]

free of charge of course, mind i would accept 80 p a mile travelling expenses

 

[Des 56]

I havn't seen the programme yet,but the 500mm part p guy may be on the way out

If that is so,there will be an opportunity for one of us to replace him

Think of the fees involved,at least one appearance every 14 years or so
Well it seems that long between electrical subjects on Tv


That melinda you are all on about,Is she the topless tart with blonde hair, and on her head as well

 

[Spudnik]

I wondered how long it would take for this thread to drift of topic.

 

[Phil]

if they do need to edit that bit i have offered my professional services to cover it with my hands

I wondered how long it would take for this thread to drift of topic.

I have no idea what you mean although she is easier on the eye that mr cable. maybee the nic could use her for the tech talks

 

[Spudnik]

There is NO WAY that was the only position the camera could be.

I mean it was a full screen shot

 

[AndrewMgan1976]

How else are they going to get viewers if they keep giving duff info!!!

 

[Phil]

How else are they going to get viewers if they keep giving duff info!!!

true, dom once did a show beat the burglar anyone see that one ? they used to stage a burglary and an ex con used to rob them and leave dna for the police to find, usually something dumb like having a drink and leaving the carton on the side. the tenants were priceless asking questions like "why would he steal that"

 

[gaz2212]

just watched it on the channel 5 website... that part p guy was just as clueless as the first bloke that bodged the light in!!

 

[Spa Key]

Five have been in touch (having been linked to this thread & the other one)..

We were sorry to learn that you feel some of the information given in Episode 2 of Series 2 was ‘false’. We can assure you that experts were on hand throughout the production of the episode for advice on all aspects of the building project. Further to this, the company that produces the programme for us have contacted the NICEIC for additional guidance on the information given on wiring in this episode. With regards to the statement “Yeah Part P clearly states that you must use 50 or 60 centimetres in an area like this but common sense prevails in things like this and you would simply put it this way”, the NICEIC stated 1 meter is a sensible distance to have an electrical switch from a sink like this, but that there is no regulation stating that the unit must be 50-60cm away. However, the point being made by the electrician here was that irrespective of the regulations, common sense should prevail and if Mr Larkin had used his common sense, he would not have located the switch here.

One full meter from the sink? How big do they think most kitchens are?

 

[scotsparky]

in that cas i am putting my sockets out side my kitchen window on IP65 RCD MK masterseals it the only way i will get the distance.

 

[Graeme Harrold]

Just watching tonights prog, and there was absolutely no mention of the 4 pipes running through the joists in the extention in the "No Drill Area"..........

 

[LukeD]

These shows are full of crap "experts" that are chosen just on how they look or act . I cringe sometimes watching them. How these guys function in real life i do not know .