Discuss EICR unsatisfactory due to 'no RCD protection to lighting circuits' in the Periodic Inspection Reporting & Certification area at ElectriciansForums.net
andHello - sorry to resurrect old thread but it seems to be along the lines of my issue.
I am a landlord with old Volex CU which only has RCD on sockets - EICR inspection has C2's it as no RCD on lighting circuit but reading this thread and spekaing to my usual electrician from London, it would seem it could be a C3 - can anyone advise me please?
Many thanks
Bradley
2 layers....?BS7671 stipulates that manufacturing instructions have to be adhered too.
not entirely correct. " manufacturers instructions should be taken into account" , no necessarily blindly followed. other wise we'd be following B&Q instructions to connect lights in an unenclosed choc. block, stuffed in the ceiling with 2 layers of insulation tape.
Apologies but didn't write in a harsh tone, joys of the written word.From where I'm sitting, the point @Pretty Mouth made was in line with the point you are making, which is this:
The regulations tell us what we need to do but very little on how to do it, so we call upon our own training and experience, and that of others on forums like this and other available information such as best practice guides. Then we are in a position to make informed decisions when it comes to coding.
So why the somewhat harsh tone?
Apologies for "hearing" what wasn't intended.Apologies but didn't write in a harsh tone, joys of the written word.
No bother, we're all adults it's discussions like this; regulations saying to do something but not explaining why and that subsequent 'work' in the form of CPD and furthering our knowledge of what we're 'told' by the regulations. I've got a few of tht commentary books to thr last few editions of the regs and they do a good job of explaining a few things behind regs.Apologies for "hearing" what wasn't intended.
This isn't quite the whole picture, and it's not a matter of opinion.But, as has already been observed further up this thread, the key thing is that an installation should be judged against whether or not it passes muster under the regs ruling at the time of the install, not the very latest iteration of them.
(Doubtless others will disagree with this, but then that's the great thing about opinions - they're like a*seholes -everybody's got one. )
C1 would never pass any edition of the regs (at least post WW-1 era!).If you find a C1 or C2 then it wouldn’t pass any edition of the regulations.
I think the C2 for sockets likely to power outdoor equipment is implied by the 1st C3 example:I just looked over BPG#4 and see it actually says:
I have always interpreted that as applying to sockets that are likely to power outdoor equipment, as well as any permantly outdoor stuff that could be reached by hand easily.
- Absence of RCD protection for portable or mobile equipment that may reasonably be expected to be used outdoors
Outdoors contains a shower or 2, thanks to our lovely weather ?I think the C2 for sockets likely to power outdoor equipment is implied by the 1st C3 example:
C3: Absence of RCD protection for a socket-outlet that is unlikely to supply portable or mobile equipment for use outdoors, does not serve a location containing a bath or shower, and the use of which is otherwise not considered by the inspector to result in potential danger.
Hi herbiehowlerHello everyone
I have a 1996 2 bedroom house which I'm about to let out as I lost my job due to COVID and need to relocate.
The NICEIC electrician I used for my EICR has given me a code C2 for 'no RCD protection to lighting circuits including bathroom lighting'. To put this right, he's proposing a new Consumer Unit, for about £450.
Would like some advice - should I query this given that the house was built in 1996, and came up to standard at the time?
Thanks
It’s never too late to learn18 month old thread. I would think it’s sorted by now.
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