If your child ended up being a sparky, would you be proud of them?

[Mumfi]

You are working for the wrong people quite clearly.....If your qualified and experienced you should be walking in to full time employment and earning at least 30K a year for a 40 hour week.

Never seen any jobs offered at anywhere near that rate of pay unless you have a degree, I am looking at one at the moment offering 12.50 per hour but as usual you need to be self employed as a limited company with own van to work anywhere in the south of the UK. Cant understand the disparity in wages, are you in a very wealthy area?

 

[Mumfi]

Reading your posts on various threads I'm starting to conclude you just come on here to troll?

What is a Troll?

 

[Leesparkykent]

Never seen any jobs offered at anywhere near that rate of pay unless you have a degree, I am looking at one at the moment offering 12.50 per hour but as usual you need to be self employed as a limited company with own van to work anywhere in the south of the UK. Cant understand the disparity in wages, are you in a very wealthy area?

Domestic Electrician job - Electrasmart Ltd - Ashford | Indeed.co.uk - https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Electrasmart-Ltd/jobs/Domestic-Electrician-1879bc18e29d70b0?q=electrician


Electrician job - Empire FM - Maidstone | Indeed.co.uk - https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Empire-FM/jobs/Electrician-c385ee12e8863d43?q=electrician

Electrician job - OHUK LTD - Sheerness | Indeed.co.uk - https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/OHUK-LTD/jobs/Electrician-62b6848c8d5ee8d5?q=electrician



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http://www.justengineers.net/job/el...medium=aggregator&sctr=EL&tmpl=lin&tid=743836

 

[Mumfi]

Domestic Electrician job - Electrasmart Ltd - Ashford | Indeed.co.uk - https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Electrasmart-Ltd/jobs/Domestic-Electrician-1879bc18e29d70b0?q=electrician


Electrician job - Empire FM - Maidstone | Indeed.co.uk - https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Empire-FM/jobs/Electrician-c385ee12e8863d43?q=electrician

Electrician job - OHUK LTD - Sheerness | Indeed.co.uk - https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/OHUK-LTD/jobs/Electrician-62b6848c8d5ee8d5?q=electrician



http://www.lgjobs.com/jobs/electric...n=Indeed&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=Indeed



http://www.justengineers.net/job/el...medium=aggregator&sctr=EL&tmpl=lin&tid=743836

Thanks for the info will give them a bell see if they will employ me , will let you know what happens

 

[D00DY_T00DY]

OK so you have an advantage with the skills of your family but you still have to purchase the house and earn a deposit which in nigh on impossible for the average sparks, what you also fail to realize is that your friends who go to university will have opportunities denied to you, once you are in this game you are stuck in it, its very difficult to get out of it, trust me I've tried you are always viewed as a dim electrician.

I live up north. Living costs are much less than down south. I've seen houses for sale for 40k 2 bedroom nothing special but what's that? 5k deposit minimum.. renovation needed of course.

12.50 an hour would be considered low paid especially down south. I don't feel the need for a degree unless I consider a hnc/hnd.

By the looks of things you don't seem to like being an electrician. Perhaps a change of scenery? All your posts seem to be a put down.

Best of luck,
Again, still happy with my career choice with no higher education debts.

 

[Specialist]

I get the impression that maybe you are new to the job..i wonder if you will feel the same in 20 years when your physically knackered

Hi Mumfi: Been in the game over 40 years & still rate it as a good industry. Never liked the house bashing side but love Commercial / Industrial. If you look, there are plenty of well paid jobs around still & even more so if you do fault finding / maintenance, plc's etc.

 

[Mumfi]

I live up north. Living costs are much less than down south. I've seen houses for sale for 40k 2 bedroom nothing special but what's that? 5k deposit minimum.. renovation needed of course.

12.50 an hour would be considered low paid especially down south. I don't feel the need for a degree unless I consider a hnc/hnd.

By the looks of things you don't seem to like being an electrician. Perhaps a change of scenery? All your posts seem to be a put down.

Best of luck,
Again, still happy with my career choice with no higher education debts.

Ok well I wish you the best of luck

 

[Lumie]

Your going to have quite a biased basis, on a forum for electricians. Personally I would be happy as long as they are happy. Why do you think certain people might be unhappy with the choice?

 

[David M]

I think its all relative, or at least for me anyway. I'd be/am proud of anything my son achieves to his full potential. For example if he excels in school/college & Uni achieves high in his education and then he decided to become an apprentice spark (no disrespect) but I think I would feel a little disappointed. I think it's just that I would want the best for my son and would like to see him achieve much more than I ever did. If I was to choose my career over, then I very much doubt I'd be a spark. Even though I do enjoy some of the work I do, I've sort of "made do" for the most part just to earn a living.

I envy those folk who "love" their work.

But ultimately my Son's own happiness is all that really counts, so if being a sparky made him happy then I would be proud he was. Its a good respected trade to have with a lot of responsibility and requires a high level of intelligence, just a shame the earnings don't always reflect this.

 

[Lumie]

Interesting point to have about highest potential. I see a lot of people (my younger self included) who believed that higher paid jobs, higher education were the only route to full potential. Which is wrong some of the happiest people I have ever met have low paying jobs a standard education and are perfectly content.

It's not the job someone does, it's the person they are which matters. I don't think you should ever compare yourself to anyone else as the saying goes your ceiling is someone else's floor will always be the case.

As long as my children are happy and fulfilled I don't mind what they do.

 

[Specialist]

Like your take on it Lumie. I've got 3 daughters, Eldests a sparkie. Middle one is determined to be a Heavy plant mechanic, Youngest wants to teach primary kids. We support all of them in what they want to do, as long as it makes them happy and we're proud of all 3.
If all 3 had decided to be sparkies, that would have been fine with us too, it's an honest skilled trade & there are still some good, well paid jobs about.

 

[David M]

Interesting point to have about highest potential. I see a lot of people (my younger self included) who believed that higher paid jobs, higher education were the only route to full potential. Which is wrong some of the happiest people I have ever met have low paying jobs a standard education and are perfectly content.

It's not the job someone does, it's the person they are which matters. I don't think you should ever compare yourself to anyone else as the saying goes your ceiling is someone else's floor will always be the case.

As long as my children are happy and fulfilled I don't mind what they do.

I agree and that was partially my point, being happy is the most important aspect in life in general, or what is the point?
A person's full potential is not always how well educated they are. You only have to look at - sports, arts, performing... some of the highest and most respected professions there are!
I guess my feelings are felt from personal experience. I know my father is very proud of me now, but he was definitely disappointed in my life choices during my younger years. I can see why, he felt I hadn't maximized on my full potential and worried I wouldn't achieve enough in life to be truly happy. He was not wrong, I made some poor choices and have had to drag myself from the gutter and make the most of what opportunities I was left with. He is proud of me for this, this I know. We all have to learn from our mistakes. But as parents we never want our children to make the same ones, even though sometimes those mistakes are necessary.

 

[David M]

I think I would be more proud to know my son made choices he was truly happy with and learnt from the ones he was not.
whether he ended up digging ditches or a brain surgeon which ever made him the most happiest and was content with, then that's really all I'd want.

 

[Mumfi]

I think its all relative, or at least for me anyway. I'd be/am proud of anything my son achieves to his full potential. For example if he excels in school/college & Uni achieves high in his education and then he decided to become an apprentice spark (no disrespect) but I think I would feel a little disappointed. I think it's just that I would want the best for my son and would like to see him achieve much more than I ever did. If I was to choose my career over, then I very much doubt I'd be a spark. Even though I do enjoy some of the work I do, I've sort of "made do" for the most part just to earn a living.

I envy those folk who "love" their work.

But ultimately my Son's own happiness is all that really counts, so if being a sparky made him happy then I would be proud he was. Its a good respected trade to have with a lot of responsibility and requires a high level of intelligence, just a shame the earnings don't always reflect this.

Am I correct in thinking that there use to be a set level for wages known as the JIB rate by which all electricians earned the same rate of pay, I seem to remember that this use to keep up quite well with cost of living ,and with the London weighting and standardized travelling allowance the average wirepuller did quite well. what happened to this idea and maybe it could be resurrected to the advantage of all.

 

[D00DY_T00DY]

Am I correct in thinking that there use to be a set level for wages known as the JIB rate by which all electricians earned the same rate of pay, I seem to remember that this use to keep up quite well with cost of living ,and with the London weighting and standardized travelling allowance the average wirepuller did quite well. what happened to this idea and maybe it could be resurrected to the advantage of all.

There is a JIB rate however only applies to JIB related companies.