NICEIC Certification Scheme Joining NICEIC

[andyb]

What are you reading, certainly nothing i've written??

He was referring to one of my posts Eng. Nothing you wrote.

 

[Essex_]

Sounds like you hoodwinked yourself E54. Lol.

 

[Engineer54]

Mainly in the Thurrock, Laindon and later North Ockendon Areas...

 

[7029 dave]

Quite the opposite actually, but then i have to take final responsibility for all electrical work carried out, where the likes of Scam providers take literally no responsibility for it's members... Trying to get any action from the Scams needs almost a threat of legal proceedings. Now how many times has that been proved here!!!

They'd always be at least one or two muppets that would come on here complaining about something or other as to why they had failed, but there has been NONE to my knowledge. As far as i'm aware from other previous threads on the subject, what normally happens if something gets picked up, is all that's needed is photographic evidence that something has been rectified at a later date, ....they don't just fail these chancers.

Funny you should say that, because whenever anyone comes on here prior to a Scam assessment the majority here, quite literally tell them not to worry so long as the 400 quid check has cleared!! lol!!

Perhaps you can explain, how a guy that had no previous experience undertakes a 17 day/5 week course and can fly through one of these so-called Scam assessments (and there are 1000s upon 1000's of them out there)?? That in itself tells me that these assessments are a complete farce, and anyone that can ACTUALLY fail one has to be a bloody walking disaster on two feet!!

Think i'll stick to my pinch of salt theory!! lol!!

It's bloody laughable ENG, our generation is deemed as in competent, because have no NVQ3 (well I don't), no chance of JIB grading, only labours at best. Crazy!!

 

[7029 dave]

Just to add, there must be 100's of years experience on this forum, from old 236C&G guys. lol

 

[andyb]

It's bloody laughable ENG, our generation is deemed as in competent, because have no NVQ3 (well I don't), no chance of JIB grading, only labours at best. Crazy!!

Who says you're incompetent Dave. I'm not sure of the point you're making.

Just to add, there must be 100's of years experience on this forum, from old 236C&G guys. lol

This is a thread about joining the Niceic.

 

[Essex_]

It's bloody laughable ENG, our generation is deemed as in competent, because have no NVQ3 (well I don't), no chance of JIB grading, only labours at best. Crazy!!

So it is all your fault? Lol.

 

[andyb]

Neither you or andyb still haven't answered how these 17 day/electrical trainee's seem to have absolutely no problems getting through these sham assessments if they are anything near /close to what andyb are purporting them to be??

What sham assessments?

Most qualified electricians see these assessments only as an expensive inconvenience, nothing more!!

So do I.

Oh and many of these chancers screw ups are only found long after they have come and gone....

What's do you mean by chancer? I really do not under stand your point.

So let's give you your wish.

Part P gone.

Now a few years down the line no 'chancers' no dodgy electricians, no Electrical Trainee, no lose connections in CCUs,
All time served electricians carrying out 1st class stuff?????

You've won me over.

 

[Leesparkykent]

It's bloody laughable ENG, our generation is deemed as in competent, because have no NVQ3 (well I don't), no chance of JIB grading, only labours at best. Crazy!!

I know it's slightly off topic but you would be eligible for an electrician graded JIB card as the NVQ 3 wasn't around when you qualified. The JIB accept this and would no way grade you as anything less (not that you would want one anyway).

 

[7029 dave]

Who says you're incompetent Dave. I'm not sure of the point you're making.



This is a thread about joining the Niceic.

I am under the impression that to join an scheme/ scam you need NVQ.? That is my point.

 

[andyb]

I am under the impression that to join an scheme/ scam you need NVQ.? That is my point.

No Dave, sadly you need no qualifications to join a scheme. Just have relevant insurance, docs, calibrated test equipment & certificates for work completed. Then show the assessor you know the basics & also show him that you know how to use your test equipment & what the test results mean & you're in.

 

[Engineer54]

No Dave, sadly you need no qualifications to join a scheme. Just have relevant insurance, docs, calibrated test equipment & certificates for work completed. Then show the assessor you know the basics & also show him that you know how to use your test equipment & what the test results mean & you're in.

Well that just shows how little you know then, you ''NEED'' the 17th cert to join any Scam provider!! Not that, that is worth much in the greater scheme of things!!

 

[andyb]

Well that just shows how little you know then, you ''NEED'' the 17th to join any Scam provider!!

Yes Eng you're right, I remember when I had my 1st assessment I had all my certificates to show the assessor and all he wanted was my 16th ed cert. I thought this was wrong & still do.

Do you really think that by not mentioning this shows how little I know? If I thought that I wouldn't bother discussing anymore.

I don't think I'll bother discussing this thread anymore.

 

[Leesparkykent]

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File9447.pdf what's needed to join as a DI includes ELECSA.

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File9449.pdf what's needed to join as an approved contractor.

 

[Engineer54]

Yes Eng you're right, I remember when I had my 1st assessment I had all my certificates to show the assessor and all he wanted was my 16th ed cert. I thought this was wrong & still do.

Do you really think that by not mentioning this shows how little I know? If I thought that I wouldn't bother discussing anymore.

I don't think I'll bother discussing this thread anymore.

Ha ha, so now you have the cheek, that it's my fault you made a totally incorrect statement now is it??

 

[Knobhead]

Here you go E54, get checking the boxes

 

[Engineer54]

I really can't be arsed!! lol!!

 

[Knobhead]

I had a look thought it and fell off the bottom following the NO’s.

I’ve never had time for or need for either the NIC-EIC or JIB and nothing will change my views on them.

 

[Essex_]

Well that just shows how little you know then, you ''NEED'' the 17th cert to join any Scam provider!! Not that, that is worth much in the greater scheme of things!!

When I had my assessment I had to show originals of 2390 parts 1 & 2. NVQ3. (I had a NVQ2 also) and either a 2391 or spend half a day showing him I could test. That was BEFORE we done anything else.

 

[Engineer54]

When I had my assessment I had to show originals of 2390 parts 1 & 2. NVQ3. (I had a NVQ2 also) and either a 2391 or spend half a day showing him I could test. That was BEFORE we done anything else.

That was the MINIMUM requirement i posted, exactly what all Scam assessments are based around, the lowest possible denominator!!

Yeah right, as if a Electrical Trainee would have any of those qualifications, but they all still get enrolled into these Scams. Or are you and others here talking about ''Approved Contractor'' assessments, which is not what the thread is about.