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I really can't believe what i'm reading here, the what if this, what if that, scenario's is totally irrelevant, you install any system installation as to the project drawings, what happens after, is not your problem or responsibility!! Your making up these scenarios to suit your argument, but frankly in the real world there is no argument to provide pointless CPC provisions where none is required or needed, ...end of!!
Fly leads are fly leads, of course they are required at accessories and fittings. Even if flexible conduits were completely plastic, what would be the trouble using the threaded earth connection of a BESA or any other box/enclosure for your CPC connection to equipment via short lengths of flexible conduit?? Been used successfully for this purpose, for connecting say motors and other required equipment for bloody years, so what's suddenly changed now then??
If sections are removed and replaced with PVC containment, then it is the responsibility of the electrician making those changes, to provide CPC provision. Same goes for any other alteration to an existing metal containment system. None warrant running in separate CPC's to the system in the first instance...
Were running in miles of metal containment systems, and when i say miles i mean miles!! Do you really think it makes any economic sense to run separate CPC's?? Bloody hell, the size of the conduits would need upgrading to the next size in most cases, just to keep within the fill restrictions. Needless to say, there will be no separate CPC's in our metal containment systems (trunking and conduits). You and others, that are foolish enough to do so, can get on and do whatever you like, ...all i can say, something has gone very wrong somewhere along the line on metal containment systems in the UK!! You've all gone stark raving Mad!! lol!!
The only thing i've failed to understand, is what sort of morons are writing/producing these spec's, that call for CPC's in metal containment systems!!
My comments above, were towards your leaning on the side of CPC's now being required in a metallic containment system.
I was not leaning either way, I simply reproduced two of the relevant Regs for people to read and decide for themselves and state why sparks install them, because they are in the specs of an install and so they install them as required.
You can read it any way you want.
A couple of things.......
If you were to leave a little more length in the CU then you would be able to get the cables a little neater.
The fly leads in the accessories shouldn't be coiled
You do not really need the fly leads as you have cpc's run in and the conduit is earthed at the CU, and the back boxes are fixed lug. The only time you really need fly leads is if you have no cpc's and you are using the conduit as your means of earthing.
These are just pointers and are not criticisms!!, overall it's a nice install and a bloody good job compared to a lot of college work I see!
Couple of observations;
- The layout of the conduit should have been considered so that they did not need to cross
- Conductor length needs attention, if you look at one of the browns in the spur you can see where it has been rubbed when the faceplate screwed back.
I appreciate a lot comes with experience, but it's things like the scuffed cable that can cause you problems both in college and the real world, I would be none to impressed when testing a new install to find that.
And I coiled them because... I just wanted to do so (it looked more "cool" when it was not stretched) . I cannot understand why not to do that.. To avoid inductance from being produced or something?
The very reason I would make you take any coiled earth bond out!
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