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Hi, is there any Regulation for old properties in regard to the Height of a socket? Seem a bit confused not sure I've heard of any of this on 2365.
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I am about to rewire my daughters house a 1900 forecourted terrace is the any height requirements for the mounting height for sockets in there
See reg 553.1.6
Part M is irrelevant on a rewire unless substantial changes have altered the original intention of the build.Where possible, any new work should be in accordance with part M.
So replace sockets in the same place, but in the new kitchen, place in accordance with part M unless that socket/switch etc is in the same place as existing
Where possible, any new work should be in accordance with part M.
So replace sockets in the same place, but in the new kitchen, place in accordance with part M unless that socket/switch etc is in the same place as existing
There is no such requirement on a rewire unless it is part of a substantial development overseen by building control. And even then discretion and customer requests can have a say, just as in new builds.Building regs say that sockets and switches in new and rewired houses should be accesable to people in a wheelchair.
Min 400 to the bottom of a socket
Max 1200 to the top of a light switch
2365 hasn't even mentioned this
and searching caused some conflicting results.
ok so in most cases using judgment Skirting board is a bit low and flex could be damaged.
seems perfectly clear to me.
This is what Approved document M actually says:-
"Application 0.2 The recommendations of this volume of this approved document apply to newly erected dwellings, and dwellings undergoing material alteration, only. They do not apply to the extension of a dwelling."
"Material alterations 0.11 Where a dwelling is subject to a material alteration, the building should be no less compliant with requirement M4(1) than it was prior to the building work taking place."
Requirement M4(1) opens with this:-
"In the Secretary of State’s view, requirement M4(1) will be met when a new dwelling makes reasonable provision for most people, including wheelchair users, to approach and enter the dwelling and to access habitable rooms and sanitary facilities on the entrance storey. Reasonable provision is made if the dwelling complies with all of the following..."
It cannot be much clearer... Part M only applies to new dwellings, and even then only to the entrance storey. If you are rewiring a property, the rule is simple... it must be no less accessible than it was before you started.
I would suggest raising sockets off the skirting board is an improvement, and I would certainly not rewire a property such that they were still in the skirting. Likewise I wouldn't force Part M heights on new work if the rest of the property is laid out differently, it's madness and is totally over the top.
Personally I encourage customers to update as appropriate, and if given free reign I apply the rules set out in Part M unless it would create a visually stupid situation like accessories at different heights (although I will if the client explicitly requests it - as happened the other day where the client didn't want the socket outlet to be visible above the top of his TV unit... his house, his choice).
James it should be 25 mm to the bottom of the socketI am about to rewire my daughters house a 1900 forecourted terrace is the any height requirements for the mounting height for sockets in there
James it should be 25 mm to the bottom of the socket
James it should be 25 mm to the bottom of the socket
Seems rather on the low side of too low .
I'm guessing inches?
25 inches is 635 mm rather on the high side of too high
Fathoms them. .
Is he a pirate ?
Google is telling me a fathom is 6 feet .
Some of the sockets not far from me are 6 foot underwater at the minute, so could be right!
12 foot ! to top or bottom of box mate ? I dont think it matters
Perhaps fit IP rated sockets
It is Jack I should have said 12 inches. It’s sad but we just never did go with the metric system in school. All I know is 25.4 mm equals 1 inch LOLSeems rather on the low side of too low .
I should have said 12 inches
Mike to my knowledge we don’t have a requirement on height for sockets except new this year on Washing machines and dryers. We have to install the sockets above them so you don’t have to move them to unplug themArn't the heights given approximately only, or is it 12 inches to the top middle or bottom of a socket?
me neither. when i went to school, we used metric system (MKS) in Science classes, but in wood work/metalwork/ etc. it was inches. our teacher was ex-RAF WWII Hurricane pilot. who said meters are for putting shillings in (nickels in USA).It is Jack I should have said 12 inches. It’s sad but we just never did go with the metric system in school. All I know is 25.4 mm equals 1 inch LOL
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