Czech guys would like to become an electricians in England

[Tomáš]

Greetings gentlemen,

I am 25 and i am finishing my Masters degree in June. After that, i would like to go to England with my ex-schoolmate from high school to work as an electricians to learn english, practice, meet a british culture, earn some money and maybe start a new life. Informations about us are below:

Me:
Age: 24
Practical experiences: None (but extensive theoretical knowledge)
Education: Masters degree in Power electrical engineering in Brno University of Technology in Czech republic.
English qualifications: None
Language level: Average (but communicative)

My friend:
Age: 25
Practical experiences: 3 years, pretty experienced in wide range of electrical areas
Education: High school diploma in Power electrical engineering
English qualifications: None
Language level: Average (but communicative)

Goals: to become an electricians in renewable energy. We will take every job what appears at the start.
Place we want to live in England: We go where the job is

Questions:
1. How to start?
2. How hard it is to become an electrician with theese conditions mentioned above. How long does it take to reach average electrician wage?
3. Do i have any advantages as a owner of Masters diploma in getting qualifications?
4. Can anybody explain me how all of it works, like those NVQs Levels 2-3? System in UK is a little bit confusing. What do we need to do according to informations about us i mentioned above?

Thank you gentlemen for your responses. They will be very appreciated

 

[telectrix]

thwe qualifications you need are c&g 2365 level 3, followed by NVQ3 and AM2. c&g 2391 test/inspection) is also recommended. then you need a JIB gold card.
the above are necessary for employment with a company. if you want to be self-employed, it's a different ball-game.

 

[The Ghost]

Hi Tomas, sounds like a good plan. Why particularly England? Why not America or France or Germany. Germany treat electricians like professors. Anyway to answer your question(s) A Masters degree would not address the industry requirements in Britain. Look at this link to find out how to enter the industry, read carefully!
Morris Services - Getting Started - http://www.morrisservices.co.uk/gettingstarted.asp

 

[Tomáš]

Hi Tomas, sounds like a good plan. Why particularly England? Why not America or France or Germany. Germany treat electricians like professors. Anyway to answer your question(s) A Masters degree would not address the industry requirements in Britain. Look at this link to find out how to enter the industry, read carefully!
Morris Services - Getting Started - http://www.morrisservices.co.uk/gettingstarted.asp

First of all .. thank you for reply. I decided for England because there is english of course. I dont speak german and there is no or little chance for me to get to America or Australia due to their immigration policy.

Well, i have found many this kind of informations. I've read a lot about this. Everything i've read said that i need to accomplish 4 years long apprenticeship which is school + practice to get quilfied and that is the absolute basic at the start. But what can we do, if both of us already graduated (in electrical power engineering)? We can not afford to spend 4 years in doing apprenticeship where they pay absolute minimum wage or less.
I would really appreciate you to post informations here, something like step by step guide to get qualified. We also have limited financial resources, like 6000£.

Thanks.

 

[Squid]

Hi Tomas, sounds like a good plan. Why particularly England? Why not America or France or Germany. Germany treat electricians like professors. Anyway to answer your question(s) A Masters degree would not address the industry requirements in Britain. Look at this link to find out how to enter the industry, read carefully!
Morris Services - Getting Started - http://www.morrisservices.co.uk/gettingstarted.asp

If they speak English then its easier to come to the UK, to get to America to work is a pain, with a power electrical engineering degree and a masters I'd be looking at work further up the ladder.

 

[Tomáš]

If they speak English then its easier to come to the UK, to get to America to work is a pain, with a power electrical engineering degree and a masters I'd be looking at work further up the ladder.

it's in the schedule. I need to improve my english and meet UK electricity system before that

 

[buzzlightyear]

First of all .. thank you for reply. I decided for England because there is english of course. I dont speak german and there is no or little chance for me to get to America or Australia due to their immigration policy.

Well, i have found many this kind of informations. I've read a lot about this. Everything i've read said that i need to accomplish 4 years long apprenticeship which is school + practice to get quilfied and that is the absolute basic at the start. But what can we do, if both of us already graduated (in electrical power engineering)? We can not afford to spend 4 years in doing apprenticeship where they pay absolute minimum wage or less.
I would really appreciate you to post informations here, something like step by step guide to get qualified. We also have limited financial resources, like 6000£.

yeah , soft touch England. not France then ,you better hurry up before the draw bridge is pulled up .

 

[buzzlightyear]

If they speak English then its easier to come to the UK, to get to America to work is a pain, with a power electrical engineering degree and a masters I'd be looking at work further up the ladder.

now which ladder is this , cleaning windows ladder .

 

[Tomáš]

yeah , soft touch England. not France then ,you better hurry up before the draw bridge is pulled up .

I am aware of that

 

[Tomáš]

Everything i've read said that i need to accomplish 4 years long apprenticeship which is school + practice to get quilfied and that is the absolute basic at the start. But what can we do, if both of us already graduated (in electrical power engineering)? We can not afford to spend 4 years in doing apprenticeship where they pay absolute minimum wage or less.
I would really appreciate you to post informations here, something like step by step guide to get qualified. We also have limited financial resources, like 6000£.

Thanks.

nobody?

 

[NDG Elecs]

I am not sure if your degree has any transferable aspects into the UK system. Have a look at the 'working overseas' section of this forum and perhaps post there, as someone may have a better idea. Maybe email City & Guilds; these are the primary education providers for many electrical qualifications in this country.

Good luck Tomás

EDIT: the forum section is 'non UK electrical works'

 

[elsparko]

nobody?

get an apprenticeship, with your qualifications i would imagine you would have a good chance with most companies, call up all the companies you want to work for till you find one willing to take you on

 

[buzzlightyear]

get an apprenticeship, with your qualifications i would imagine you would have a good chance with most companies, call up all the companies you want to work for till you find one willing to take you on

if C/Guilds will let him , but he has more chances on being kissed on the lips by a giraffe .

 

[buzzlightyear]

these loads of jobs in Scotland, because the scots are in England .
you could steel their jobs while they are not looking!

 

[The Ghost]

I would really appreciate you to post informations

Tomas it is fine to ask questions but if you don't read and or follow up with the advice given then it is useless to ask. Re-read post #3 you will see a link in it. You want a step by step guide?...that is it, the step by step guide. If you do not understand it....

 

[derek]

Surely you'd be better off looking for a job as an electrical engineer not as an electrician. Electrical theory is the same the world over, I doubt it would take long for you to get to grips with how things are done in the UK, and a lot of products are the same all over the world when you look at distribution and control systems.
It seems a complete waste to me to have a master's degree and then spend three or 4 years training to be an electrician, when you should be looking at how to become a chartered engineer. If I was you I would concentrate on trying to improve my understanding of English particularly with regards to the technical terms required.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I would be looking at linesman jobs .

 

[Wilko]

...But what can we do, if both of us already graduated (in electrical power engineering)? We can not afford to spend 4 years in doing apprenticeship ...

Hi Tomas - my advice is to get a design engineer job working in the power industry. To illustrate - an engineer with a masters degree perhaps could design a new surge protection device for high voltage switchgear, but for sure they would not want to be the one to fit it in the power station. That work has its own high level of assumed knowledge and experience, which the apprenticeship is just the start.

 

[MJPD29]

I would like to get the master degree would get you a higher job somewhere, but if you want to be an electrician it won't be any help to you. You'l have to do the 4 years like everyone else to be qualified properly and sadly the wages aren't good starting off. If I had a masters degree I don't think I'd continue being an electrician to be quite honest

 

[charlie76]

Tomas, I wouldn't bother mate. The healthcare system is crumbling, the welfare system is on its knees, the likes of Carillion and other large construction companies are going down the pan. England has just about been milked dry hence why the drawer bridge is being pulled up and we voted for Brexit. I think the party is probably about over now and the hangover is kicking in.

 

[telectrix]

from 1972 this country has been raped by the EU. can't we get them arrested and jailed with Rolf Harris?

 

[Squid]

from 1972 this country has been raped by the EU. can't we get them arrested and jailed with Rolf Harris?

Eastern European girls are better looking then the home grown versions, Viz hit the nail on the head lol

 

[buzzlightyear]

from 1972 this country has been raped by the EU. can't we get them arrested and jailed with Rolf Harris?

probably, getting they own back having go to war with every body , France ,Agincourt &.Trafalgar, Germany world 1&2. Spain, and the list goes on and on!

 

[elsparko]

these loads of jobs in Scotland, because the scots are in England .
you could steel their jobs while they are not looking!

jobs for the boys

 

[elsparko]

probably, getting they own back having go to war with every body , France ,Agincourt &.Trafalgar, Germany world 1&2. Spain, and the list goes on and on!

the last 2 tries of german policy control didnt go over too well with the rest of europe, funny how one of the only countries not at risk from the germans decided we had to crush them

RULE BRITANNIA

red white and blue only runs when it is flown in 3 stripe form

 

[Squid]

the last 2 tries of german policy control didnt go over too well with the rest of europe, funny how one of the only countries not at risk from the germans decided we had to crush them

RULE BRITANNIA

red white and blue only runs when it is flown in 3 stripe form

Dunkirk?

 

[elsparko]

Dunkirk?

nah dunkirk we were just going home to get our own ball to play by our own rules when we got back

 

[Squid]

lol

 

[ferg]

As others have said in your shoes I'd be looking to use your degree not retrain.

 

[Tomáš]

Thank you for your responses gentlemen. I know i can use my degree better, but i want to start with my friend on the same post so we can adapt smoothly to britain conditions especially in electrical system .. it seems like a best start to me. Then, of course, i would try to find, like SWD said, a job "further up the ladder"

From what i read yesterday i deduce, that NVQ is an indicator of theoretical and practical skills to relevant level ( NVQ1,2,3 etc.) but it is not essential if a man has theoretical education (like us) in that specialization. So if i have theoretical education in this field i should not have any limitations in doing qualifications i need to do this job right? So it should be up to potential employer if tolerates absence of NVQ or not.

 

[ferg]

The NVQ is the evidence of your practical knowledge.

The theory side is a different qualification.

 

[Toneyz]

yeah , soft touch England. not France then ,you better hurry up before the draw bridge is pulled up .

Drawbridge Borris was on about a bridge the other day.

 

[elsparko]

Drawbridge Borris was on about a bridge the other day.

nonsense, just fill the tunnel in, put some gun bunkers on the south coast and jobs a good un,

 

[dbardell]

I don't think you've got much of a chance Tomas. I've got friends who have been to college and got their C&G 2330 levels 2/3 and still can't get employment in the industry. Like others have already said use your degree in some way.....

 

[Santa]

From what I have read on this forum, Tomas and his mate can watch a few videos and read some DIY electrical work books and then set themselves up as self-employed electricians. So long as they keep to simple work like changing bulbs at £90 a pop (no VAT) and wiring up the odd extension at £200 a day, they will be fine. If they come across anything tricky like putting in a sub-board for a detached garage, they can always ask on here for advice.

 

[Squid]

To be honest whilst training in the UK you'll either be working at McDonalds, Starbucks, Pret or Costa Coffee as you will have to cover living costs, if you are heading to London then you are in for a shock. Se if you can get on to the maintenance side of things but then again since Carillion has folded there will be a lot of people chasing jobs.

 

[buzzlightyear]

any foreign worker who wants to work in this country ,needs to have a licence to work , like they do in Australia, because if they electrocute some body in this country,
they can easily slip back to the country where they come from and sod our laws .

 

[Squid]

Or go to Poland as most of their electricians and plumbers are in the UK ;o))))))

 

[charlaz angel]

Ha Buzzlightyear.
Just to let you know,Us older Linesmen were all fully qualified ,apprentice trained electricians,before we went on to industrial training to be Linesmen,Cable Jointers or Sub Station Fitters.Dont think all DNO craftsmen take three months to get trained up.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Ha Buzzlightyear.
Just to let you know,Us older Linesmen were all fully qualified ,apprentice trained electricians,before we went on to industrial training to be Linesmen,Cable Jointers or Sub Station Fitters.Dont think all DNO craftsmen take three months to get trained up.

who said ,three months training ,I know that they are looking for lines man ,because my younger brother is one .
he has more tickets then a bus conductor ....