cable clips into brick/concrete etc!

[HappyHippyDad]

Quite often I find the (masonary) cable clips will not attach well to the mortar or brick, they either bend or if they do go in they are loose.

If this happens I remove the pin from the clip and put a 6 gauge screw through it instead and use a rawl plug, this obviously works well but is time consuming. Just wondered what everyone else does?

 

[Richard Burns]

made for the job

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Do you use these Richard?

 

[Richard Burns]

Yes.
I will try not to use them as it takes more time, but I have a 5mm masonry bit in my tool belt for just this use, drilling a shallow 5mm hole is not too slow and the clips are then easy to fix in place and the clip covers the pin plug.
If you are really stuck then a 4mm hole and half a pin plug can do the same job (or even the hole you have just made trying to get the clip in place:shame.
If the clips will just not stay in then, for me, this is the answer.

There may be other answers, obviously for brick clipping into the brick mortar boundary is the easiest, but it does need reasonable mortar and not the "beautifully" raked out joints. But for concrete what else is there?

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Yes.
I will try not to use them as it takes more time, but I have a 5mm masonry bit in my tool belt for just this use, drilling a shallow 5mm hole is not too slow and the clips are then easy to fix in place and the clip covers the pin plug.
If you are really stuck then a 4mm hole and half a pin plug can do the same job (or even the hole you have just made trying to get the clip in place:shame.
If the clips will just not stay in then, for me, this is the answer.

There may be other answers, obviously for brick clipping into the brick mortar boundary is the easiest, but it does need reasonable mortar and not the "beautifully" raked out joints. But for concrete what else is there?

Thanks as usual.

I think I will give them a go as even though you still have to drill a hole it would be quicker than putting a screw into the clip and then screwing in.

 

[tazz]

If you use capping, as required...you wouldn`t be using clips...

 

[Deleted member 9648]

If you use capping, as required...you wouldn`t be using clips...

Where did he say the clipped cable will be buried? And where is there a requirement for capping?

 

[Doomed]

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made for the job

Have a box of these in the van just in case - did use one about 4 years ago.....

 

[dingledong]

Superglue

 

[atm84]

In the past I have drilled a 5mm hole, inserted a rawl plug and then inserted a couple of cable clip nails before fitting the final clip.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

If you use capping, as required...you wouldn`t be using clips...

You confused me for a moment there tazz! I was talking about an outside wall.

 

[Engineer54]

Superglue

Used that (well Fixall Glue, which is a type of super glue) a few times myself in Cyprus, makes lighting cable runs look very neat on wooden pergolas and the like. A bit of wood stain to cover and they almost disappear!! lol!!

 

[tazz]

Where did he say the clipped cable will be buried? And where is there a requirement for capping?

Mechanical protection of cables, either cap, trunk or tube..

 

[Simonslimline]

I was under the understanding that capping is not classed as mechanical protection.

This thread relates to clipped direct anyway surely.

 

[Alex Ramage]

Mechanical protection of cables, either cap, trunk or tube..

RCD fitted? No mechanical cable protection required

 

[atm84]

Above 2 metres. Clipped direct is acceptable.

 

[DPG]

Mechanical protection of cables, either cap, trunk or tube..

Not this one again! Daz

 

[Pete999]

Why waste hard earned dosh paying for boxes of plastic pin plugs? use a piece of scrap wood bash it in the hole bash yer clip in job done Bob's yer Uncle end of

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Mechanical protection of cables, either cap, trunk or tube..

So clipping isn't permitted then????
This sort of tripe posted by people who should know better is one of the reasons I dont spend much time on here now. A perfectly reasonable question has been posted about the problem of clipping to masonry and someone states it's not allowed without any explanation or regulations to back it up. By all means have your personal preferences Tazz but DONT post them as fact!

 

[7029 dave]

Drill and small plug.