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Dee

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Can anyone help? We are planning to lay another layer of plasterboard in our kitchen and then plaster; we are leaving sockets where they are just replacing fronts but need to be able to sit in new plasterboard which will make depth approx 30mm deeper than now, can anyone suggest way of lengthening cable as existing cable does not have enough play to pull forward. Many thanks.
 
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Shakey

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Can anyone help? We are planning to lay another layer of plasterboard in our kitchen and then plaster; we are leaving sockets where they are just replacing fronts but need to be able to sit in new plasterboard which will make depth approx 30mm deeper than now, can anyone suggest way of lengthening cable as existing cable does not have enough play to pull forward. Many thanks.
well the standard way to lengthen them would be using crimps

And before everyone starts about 'safe isolation', 'notifiable work in kitchens' etc etc, I am saying HOW he could do it, I am not saying he SHOULD:rolleyes:
 
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Dee

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Thank you sharkey. Maybe being a bit thick (typical blond)!, but is this something a qualified electrician should do then? and will it need a certificate? I wouldnt consider doing this myself as i dont know my live from my earth :eek: but my partner does. i just want to make sure we are doing things the safest way if we dont have to use qualified electrician.

oops, sorry shakey, not sharkey.
 
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wattsup

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Well if 30mm short the original spark left them short, but loads of sparks do that. Me I would just extend using connectors if major probs involved getting the length required and no realistic alternative.
Just to get on shakey's nerves I would never crimp solid drawn copper cable, use connectors but let a spark do it, don't diy the connections.
 
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Dee

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thanks wattsup, sounds like it can be done then, just not by no-prof, i will call electrician tomorrow.
 
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Spudmiester

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Crimps V connectors, this could go on and on.............

Myself I would use crimps just to get on Wattsups nerves.

I think we covered all this a month or two back !
 
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Shakey

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Well if 30mm short the original spark left them short, but loads of sparks do that. Me I would just extend using connectors if major probs involved getting the length required and no realistic alternative.
Just to get on shakey's nerves I would never crimp solid drawn copper cable, use connectors but let a spark do it, don't diy the connections.
ha ha here we go again

I am presuming that the joint will be behind the box, so available for inspection, maintenance etc.;)

Crimps are a recognised and acceptable method of extending / joining cables.

The EAL Domestic Installers course (as an example) which I teach specifically requires to the student to extend a cable using crimps.:rolleyes:

*can open*
*worms out*

again......:p
 

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What size plaster board are you using that it will be 30mm deeper?

Standard plaster board is 12mm thick with a skim coating on top will make it 15mm max possibly.
 
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montybaber

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again im with wattsup on this one :)
 
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Crimps! As told on VRQ Level 2 Domestic Electrical Installer Part P course - the question came up on one of the many assessments we had to take.
 
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montybaber

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Crimps! As told on VRQ Level 2 Domestic Electrical Installer Part P course - the question came up on one of the many assessments we had to take.
doesnt make it right though, always been taught (along with many very experienced electricians and electrical engineers) that crimping solid core cable is bad practice.
 
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Carter

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Don't crimp solids unless absolutely no other get out such as to lift a board above to get a few inches slack, or sometimes possible to "bring the mountain to mohammad" by repositioning the socket a few inches, replace the offending leg/s. Recognized or not, it just doesnt 'feel' right to me even though I know that when properly applied they will correctly deform the conductor and if properly done you couldn't seperate the joint even by hauling on it! I've also in my time come across crimps that looked like they were done by belting them with a pair of stones. That's my tuppence worth.

Mind you I'm the sort who wherever possible puts bootlace crimps on any flex terminations to FCUs and spur units out of habit, alright, AND because I like the noise my gucci 'Pressmaster' ratchet crimper makes! Phwooaar:rolleyes:
 
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montybaber

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I've also in my time come across crimps that looked like they were done by belting them with a pair of stones.
pmsl:D

Totally agree on bootlace ferrules too!
 
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Dee

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Ok, maybe i have over estimated on the thickness, well i am a woman! :D

Shall i do some by crimping and the others by connectors, at least that way i will have some of it right, and it might stop u lot arguing lol. Thank u all anyway.
 
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rumrunner

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If yer origional sparks left them so short then if i couldnt pull any slack i would rewire the whole lot,one socket might be a mistake,but all of them ?,rip it all out and start again,and crimping solid core cables is in my opinion [email protected] and as ive said before it used to say on the packet "only to be used on stranded cables,connectors would be better but i wouldnt do it
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