Earth loop meter required

[Nigel Cutler]

Can someone help me find a particular type of earth loop meter that I used to use years ago. It was the type that had a earth wander lead and probe. You plug in the meter to a socket, then touch the probe to the casing of the fixed appliance, you get an ELI reading

I'm no longer a part P electrician but work as a gas engineer. I just want to check the boilers I work on without having to get into the terminal block.

I hope someone can help.

 

[Pete999]

Can someone help me find a particular type of earth loop meter that I used to use years ago. It was the type that had a earth wander lead and probe. You plug in the meter to a socket, then touch the probe to the casing of the fixed appliance, you get an ELI reading

I'm no longer a part P electrician but work as a gas engineer. I just want to check the boilers I work on without having to get into the terminal block.

I hope someone can help.

Think you may need a PATest instrument

 

[westward10]

Robin testers did this, still use one.

 

[Nigel Cutler]

Robin testers did this, still use one.

Thanks, westward10

Think you may need a PATest instrument

Thanks Pete. What is the procedure with a Pat tester, I've never used one before?

 

[westward10]

Here is the connection point.

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[Nigel Cutler]

Robin testers did this, still use one.

Thanks Westward 10, what model is that?

 

[Nigel Cutler]

Here is the connection point.

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Thanks, what model is that?

 

[Pete999]

Thanks, westward10

Thanks Pete. What is the procedure with a Pat tester, I've never used one before?

Well all appliances should be subjected to what is now called In Service inspection and testing of Electrical Equipment or ISITEE, the old PATesting no qualifications required, but you do have to be competent, it depends on which model of tester you were to opt for.

 

[westward10]

Thanks, what model is that?

It is a Robin KMP412ODL but they are no longer manufactured, you can pick them up from eBay but that would be taking a leap in the dark.

 

[Nigel Cutler]

Hi Pete. I am C & G qualified with 2391, was niceic reg for 20 years. No longer registered though. I don't do any electrical work now. I just want to check the boilers I work on have a proper earth before doing gas work. Many gas engineers just do a continuity test between boiler casing and machine screws on the fused spur, but this doesn't prove much. I just need a method of quickly checking it has a proper earth without having to access the fused spur.

 

[Nigel Cutler]

It is a Robin KMP412ODL but they are no longer manufactured, you can pick them up from eBay but that would be taking a leap in the dark.

Thanks Westward, started looking already. The don't trip the RCD I would I imagine?

 

[Pete999]

Hi Pete. I am C & G qualified with 2391, was niceic reg for 20 years. No longer registered though. I don't do any electrical work now. I just want to check the boilers I work on have a proper earth before doing gas work. Many gas engineers just do a continuity test between boiler casing and machine screws on the fused spur, but this doesn't prove much. I just need a method of quickly checking it has a proper earth without having to access the fused spur.

Go with Westy's option then

 

[Nigel Cutler]

Go with Westy's option then

Thanks Pete. Appreciated.

 

[westward10]

Thanks Westward, started looking already. The don't trip the RCD I would I imagine?

Well yes and no. The D loc technology they used put a dc voltage through the circuit and most rcds at that time didn't trip because of this, today they will trip most rcbos and some rcds.

 

[Nigel Cutler]

Well yes and no. The D loc technology they used put a dc voltage through the circuit and most rcds at that time didn't trip because of this, today they will trip most rcbos and some rcds.

Thanks for that advice, valuable, I need to avoid p***ing the customer off.

 

[UNG]

Why do you need to find an old obsolete tester, all of the MFT's I know of will do this test. I have a lead for my Metrel Metrel TEK118 Earth Bonded Metalwork Lead - https://www.test-meter.co.uk/metrel-tek118-earth-bonded-metalwork-lead/?utm_source=google_shopping&gclid=Cj0KEQjw2LjGBRDYm9jj5JSxiJcBEiQAwKWAC5H3NcQf8UjJ2rMyvIL8wZu6GyOlAqVauEwUUFvPYykaAj9C8P8HAQ that does the job

 

[westward10]

Why do you need to find an old obsolete tester, all of the MFT's I know of will do this test. I have a lead for my Metrel Metrel TEK118 Earth Bonded Metalwork Lead - https://www.test-meter.co.uk/metrel-tek118-earth-bonded-metalwork-lead/?utm_source=google_shopping&gclid=Cj0KEQjw2LjGBRDYm9jj5JSxiJcBEiQAwKWAC5H3NcQf8UjJ2rMyvIL8wZu6GyOlAqVauEwUUFvPYykaAj9C8P8HAQ that does the job

They are not obsolete just not produced anymore I use one day in day out.

 

[UNG]

No longer manufactured = obsolete in my book
Doesn't mean you can't still use it

 

[telectrix]

No longer manufactured = obsolete in my book
Doesn't mean you can't still use it

there's hope for me yet, then?