EICR code thoughts please?

[tom79bmth]

name me 1 spark that has never had a shock of some sort in their working life.

Well probably not many, but that's usually because they haven't followed H&S - safe isolation so who's fault is that !!

 

[capitolltd]

Well the electrical safety council state in their guidance that this departure doesn't even warrant a code, but remember this guide is based on domestic all insulated installations. Now depending on the environment and location and other facts, it might get a C3 at most, as I initially stated.

 

[telectrix]

Well probably not many, but that's usually because they haven't followed H&S - safe isolation so who's fault is that !!

the fault is the real world. can any spark honestly say he's never done a small job on a live installation/DB, swapped out a light switch with the juice on?

 

[Guest55]

wirepuller bang on the money regards h&s.
pulling wrong neutral out is only a prob if you working on energised DB , which you shouldnt be doing in the first place , but.......
we all do it within our own comfort zone and accept that risk , so you cant throw around C2's just because you've goofed up.

missing bonding is only a C2 and that affects all users of a property , whereas mixed up neutrals only sting a spark , who should know better
it a C3 all day long ;-)

 

[tom79bmth]

the fault is the real world. can any spark honestly say he's never done a small job on a live installation/DB, swapped out a light switch with the juice on?

Never lol

 

[telectrix]

liar. LOL.

 

[MDJ]

It is a toughy, I still can't find an argument at all which I could explain to the customer saying it's a C2, I can imagine their reply if I tried to charge them for this, this is a 50/50 and there will be if's and butts all day long over this, however still can't find an argument saying it's a C2 to the customer, so after deep thought and reading this thread 100 times, well a C3 for me I think, or C2 lol, although the Job is very rough to say the least.

 

[tom79bmth]

well only 5 days a week sometimes 6 if i work on Saturday

 

[Guest55]

i think theres many on here who would do well to study more closely the ESC coding guide so as to better gauge defect severity as some of the inspection coding opinions being expressed on recent threads are pure fantasy to be honest.

 

[muzza1]

Another interesting read, ta.

 

[craig1000]

I have gone over the esc guide before posting biff, and wanting to be correct but still unsure after going over the guide a few times posted!
I have said gona go C2 a few posts back, am now swaying back to C3 after further posts from others! ;-/

 

[telectrix]

where the C 2½ when you need it?

 

[MDJ]

i think theres many on here who would do well to study more closely the ESC coding guide so as to better gauge defect severity as some of the inspection coding opinions being expressed on recent threads are pure fantasy to be honest.

you mean like my disgust at showers and fans in bathrooms with no local isolation Biff?

 

[Silly Sausage]

C3 at most, no argument!
Can't fail an installation because of some Neutrals being out of sequence.

 

[telectrix]

seems like i'm out voted. still would not be happy giving the job a satisfactory though.

 

[Guest55]

you mean like my disgust at showers and fans in bathrooms with no local isolation Biff?

i was only pulling your leg in that thread mike ;-)
and my previous comment was aimed at the forum in general.

I have gone over the esc guide before posting biff, and wanting to be correct but still unsure after going over the guide a few times posted!
I have said gona go C2 a few posts back, am now swaying back to C3 after further posts from others! ;-/

not often are periodics black & white but its your inspection , your call

 

[sparkymalarky]

Sorry Telectrix but I give these a C3 all day everyday! I can see both arguments but I C3 it for the same reasons already mentioned! No point in repeating posts again

 

[Deleted member 9648]

wirepuller bang on the money regards h&s.
pulling wrong neutral out is only a prob if you working on energised DB , which you shouldnt be doing in the first place , but.......
we all do it within our own comfort zone and accept that risk , so you cant throw around C2's just because you've goofed up.

missing bonding is only a C2 and that affects all users of a property , whereas mixed up neutrals only sting a spark , who should know better
it a C3 all day long ;-)

Bleedin' eck.....approval from Biff!:happybday:

 

[telectrix]

he must have been on the happy juice tonight.:aureola:

 

[Guest55]

he must have been on the happy juice tonight.:aureola:

i dont booze on a skool nite lol.