Interesting videos from Bundy

[lozarus]

Im not entirely sure who he's "reporting" it to. I mean you can report a scam member to their scam. But obviously these guys won't be in one. So who can he report them to? Trading standards? Can't see that going anywhere. They'll have quoted for the job and done it - thats where trading standards will end. Prime example of how the regs and/or part P seems to be there to tax the genuine and doesn't help with us "normal" folk.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Im not entirely sure who he's "reporting" it to. I mean you can report a scam member to their scam. But obviously these guys won't be in one. So who can he report them to? Tradimg standards? Can't see that foing anywhere. They'll have quoted for the job and don it - thats where trading standards will end. prime example of how the regs and/or part P seems to be there to tax the genuine and doesn't help with "normal" folk.

near 20 years ago I said the day part pee started it is simply a tax on the decent honest sparks that will make us more expensive compared to the rogues who will simply carry on regardless. sadly I was right...

 

[lozarus]

near 20 years ago I said the day part pee started it is simply a tax on the decent honest sparks that will make us more expensive compared to the rogues who will simply carry on regardless. sadly I was right...

In my cul-de-sac ive witnessed at least 3 people do notifiable works on their electrical system. (In fairness i've watched the old boys do it. They've clearly read their readers digest and the work is fine) . Anyway. That's one small close in England. Clearly Part P doesnt work. But this is another thread.

 

[Dustydazzler]

In my cul-de-sac ive witnessed at least 3 people do notifiable works on their electrical system. (In fairness i've watched the old boys do it. They've clearly read their readers digest and the work is fine) . Anyway. That's one small close in England. Clearly Part P doesnt work. But this is another thread.

It was never going to work , it was just a tax on those of us stupid enough to pay it

 

[nicebutdim]

Im not entirely sure who he's "reporting" it to. I mean you can report a scam member to their scam. But obviously these guys won't be in one. So who can he report them to? Trading standards? Can't see that going anywhere. They'll have quoted for the job and done it - thats where trading standards will end. Prime example of how the regs and/or part P seems to be there to tax the genuine and doesn't help with us "normal" folk.

It's pretty much a prime example of one of the reasons for Trading Standards existence: rogue traders.

'Part P' has no standing in this part of the world, but there'd still be a clear case for pursuing this sort of guy.

 

[loz2754]

I have never seen my mother in laws fuse box and would not even think about asking to see it if she asked me to change a light bulb.
I too fail to see the relevance

I one saw my mother in law's box in the middle of the night as we both decided to do a dash for the loo at the same time...

 

[pirate]

Reminds me of a time, long, long time ago, when I ditched my girlfriend for her Mum! GF was very pretty, but her Mum just had everything a boy could want!
Time to get this thread back on topic...
and don't forget the hazlenut in every bite!

 

[Mike Johnson]

The video's are quite telling on the standard of workmanship for the wall panels let alone anything else, the corners are chrome trim covered instead of being a post form edge, so either cheap panels without post form edges or they cut them off as they could not be bothered to measure properly.

 

[Diddy]

Tell NICEIC that the contractor was using their logo and they will be up in court in double quick time. Tell ANY of the schemes about iffy workmanship and they will really not have much to say.
It isn't even in their remit to police anything.
Trading standards ? Possibly IF you could get a bored inspector who might know a regulation or 2 about electrical installations. But even in this case and it IS bad, What was the outcome? What damage was done? What "law" would they get dragged to court based upon?
Building control? They will just go after the householder for employing someone to do work in a notifiable location and for failing to notify.
It's not an offence to be a pretend electrician nor is it an offence to be rubbish at it...

 

[LukeD]

Reminds me of a time, long, long time ago, when I ditched my girlfriend for her Mum! GF was very pretty, but her Mum just had everything a boy could want!
Time to get this thread back on topic...
and don't forget the hazlenut in every bite!

YOu crack on.... this is a story worth hearing !! Ive done the same , ----'s are a whole new level

 

[LukeD]

Tell NICEIC that the contractor was using their logo and they will be up in court in double quick time. Tell ANY of the schemes about iffy workmanship and they will really not have much to say.
It isn't even in their remit to police anything.
Trading standards ? Possibly IF you could get a bored inspector who might know a regulation or 2 about electrical installations. But even in this case and it IS bad, What was the outcome? What damage was done? What "law" would they get dragged to court based upon?
Building control? They will just go after the householder for employing someone to do work in a notifiable location and for failing to notify.
It's not an offence to be a pretend electrician nor is it an offence to be rubbish at it...

100% so true ...

 

[mainline]

Do you know that he hadn't already told her, because nothing in that video suggests either that he had or hadn't?

Regardless of the hypothetical musings about unknown conversations within the family, someone felt there was no need to concern themselves with such matters, plough on regardless and then lie about using ELV lighting.

Had the board already been upgraded the result would still have been a sh*t show, albeit one with RCD protection to cover work in that special location.

You say no relevance to the work but mr bundy has now taken responsibility for the work by making alterations while pointing out that there is no rcd protection

 

[mainline]

I have never seen my mother in laws fuse box and would not even think about asking to see it if she asked me to change a light bulb.
I too fail to see the relevance

How about if she asked you to put right some iffy electrical work in the bathroom where there is no rcd protection

 

[nicebutdim]

You say no relevance to the work but mr bundy has now taken responsibility for the work by making alterations while pointing out that there is no rcd protection

Take that up with Nick Bundy, if indeed he hasn't provided RCD protection (I've no idea if that's the case).

It still has no bearing on the mess left by the bathroom fitters and anyway what evidence is there that he carried out any work in the bathroom - it's not as though he filmed himself doing so and posted it on youtube.

 

[LukeD]

You say no relevance to the work but mr bundy has now taken responsibility for the work by making alterations while pointing out that there is no rcd protection

if so...thats an issue

 

[nicebutdim]

if so...thats an issue

I'd say you'd have a good defence if rectifying dangerous work as an emergency, leaving the installation safer than it was found and then returning at the earliest possibility to carry out other required remedial work.

Would you argue that it's better to walk away and leave a potentially dangerous situation?

 

[LukeD]

I'd say you'd have a good defence if rectifying dangerous work as an emergency, leaving the installation safer than it was found and then returning at the earliest possibility to carry out other required remedial work.

Would you argue that it's better to walk away and leave a potentially dangerous situation?

Interesting....If in this situation the Mother has another bathroom etc etc . I would be tempted to say "use the other one" until its all ok. But In reality , yes you make sense, yet in the silly world of Electrics , NEICIC . Building control and all the other stuff. Would not want to be in court over it !

 

[mainline]

plough on regardless and then lie about using ELV lighting.

He didn't say ELV he said LV.

 

[mainline]

I'd say you'd have a good defence if rectifying dangerous work as an emergency, leaving the installation safer than it was found and then returning at the earliest possibility to carry out other required remedial work.

Would you argue that it's better to walk away and leave a potentially dangerous situation?

If he thought that the situation was dangerous, then he should have disconnected the circuit.

 

[nicebutdim]

He didn't say ELV he said LV.

He was a bathroom fitter, whose comment was related by a 3rd party, defending the fitting of lights in a special location which lacked RCD protection. While you might consider him correct in stating they were LV, I think most people know exactly what was meant.