No Certificate For New Electrics And Local Authority Demands

[TMess]

Quite a few of you have mentioned getting a minor works certificate. However, Building Control have always asked for a Part P certificate. Where do we legally stand in terms of refusing to give them a Part P certificate (because we can't in our current situation) and offering them a minor works certificate instead? What is the difference between the two certificates in the first place?

 

[tony mc]

The electrician will issue a either a Minor works which what yours is or a Electrical Instalation Certificate.

There is no such thing as a part P certificate.

As already stated if the work is notifiable then the elctricans scheme in your case the NICEIC will inform the LABC that the work has beed done as per the part P building regs !

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I would imagine that when they ask for a 'Part P' certificate, they are actually asking for a Building Regulations compliance Certificate.

 

[Guest55]

I don't follow. If LABC don't receive a certificate, then the entire job will not be signed off by them, which will result in one very unhappy customer and leaves our reputation on the line...

then just pay the damn fee if your customers satisfaction and company reputation is worth more than £400.
sometimes the path of least resistance is best if you dont want to tie up endless hours of hassle sorting this out.
then you can move on and learn for the next time you have to deal with the part p process.

 

[ruston]

A "part certificate " does not really exist. if you employ a part p registered electrician he is allowed to self certify his work to building control within 30 days of completion of the works. Building control will then sign the work off and issue the customer with a completion certificate. The spark does not need to send an EIc to building control as that goes to the person ordering the work.

The other route is to notify BC twenty four hours before work commences and pay a notification fee. BC may then decide to take copy of the certificate from a competent person or oversee the work themselves .ie first and second fix inspections. then on completion you will get a compliance certificate. This is not conclusive and the terminology may be incorrect because I'm tired lol.

It's taken so long to get this up on 3 you lot have said it all.

 

[Guitarist]

then just pay the damn fee if your customers satisfaction and company reputation is worth more than £400.
sometimes the path of least resistance is best if you dont want to tie up endless hours of hassle sorting this out.
then you can move on and learn for the next time you have to deal with the part p process.

Agree with you biff. I have already said that not having to pay the electrician should cover this, and many of us have explained that there is no such thing as a "part P certificate" issued by the sparky, even if the work is notifiable.
I can't believe this thread is still going....