Speaker Cable

[SYKRAPS]

I came across a job today where the speakers are connected using 1mm twin and earth, not being very well versed in this area can you guys list the pros and cons of this "if any".

Should I change this or not? It should bo ok right? I have not seen it working so I don't want any comeback because if the quality is poor when the electric is restored the customer is bound to complain that it used to be better.

Thanks..............

 

[chrish_1977]

I would say that there wouldn't be a problem but the sound quality may be degraded, speaker cable is flexible and t+e is not very.

 

[dim_bulb]

I can't see any difference as its just a conductor carrying current nothing more

 

[DPG]

Don't change it. This stuff used to be highly recommended by some hi-fi experts. I guarantee if you do a straight comparison between this and 'proper' speaker cable you won't notice a difference.
You could always offer him an upgrade to 6mm! :shades_smile: Daz

 

[dim_bulb]

What's the sunglasses on your yellow man is that because your whites are whiter than white!

 

[DPG]

It could be, or it could be because I couldn't be bothered looking through all the smilies! Daz :24:

 

[SYKRAPS]

What's the sunglasses on your yellow man is that because your whites are whiter than white!

Like a Bluer White?

 

[dim_bulb]

Sorry it was me being silly daz fabric softener.

 

[DPG]

SKYRAPS, how come you put a 'like' on dim_bulbs comment, but not on my original answer to your question ?? Extra-white Daz

 

[dim_bulb]

Because he doesn't like you he likes me.
Ner nah nerr nerr neh

 

[DPG]

Because he doesn't like you he likes me.
Ner nah nerr nerr neh

:shades_smile: Lol

 

[Stroppy]

My speakers run over Cat5, and sound great!

 

[Marvo]

You could use SWA and the armour would act as shielding and reduce the noise.Seriously I think CAT 5 would give better frequency response than flat twin plus it comes with shielding.

 

[Adam W]

I read in a hi-fi magazine (or it might have been a Richer Sounds catalogue) that many audiophiles use 6mm twin with the cpc cut out.
Same theory behind it - the larger the csa the better.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Oxygen free copper is the only way to go...

 

[amlu]

how big speakers? should do the job up to around 300watts rms. only problem i see that solid wire may break if someone is going to move them too much. if its for an install then no problems.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I thought everything had to be gold plated.
Glass turn tables, wooden pick up arms, battery powered Amps and spike the speakers to a solid floor.

 

[dim_bulb]

you need to go on a citreon saxo forum as they seem to have a good understanding of big loud speakers and cable

sorry im just being sterotypical....resents1:

 

[tazz]

Are you sure its not a 100v music/pa system your looking at....??????

 

[Knobhead]

Read up on "skin effect" of HF cables. Come back and tell me what you find :wink5:

I use 10mm TriRated.

 

[Knobhead]

My hearing is shot. I could tell the difference.

 

[Daveash123]

Ona recent AV job at a large shopping centre we installed 8 core 16mm speaker cables to the AV panels. This was identical to tri-rated cable and all connections were soldered.

 

[Knobhead]

Come on, it's only my lounge!

 

[Taylortwocities]

You guys gotta get with the beat.

A 2.5metre length of Kimber Select KS-6068 will only set you back. £19,646!

If you want a jaw-dropping interlude, have a browse through Russ Andrews catalogue. he'll let you have a 2-socket extension lead for £165, it does have spike suppression though.......time to make your Xmas list??

http://www.russandrews.com/default.asp?lookup=1&region=UK&currency=GBP&customer_id=PAA0695129812286YSKOXXVMRGCFICJF

 

[DPG]

Don't knock it - they sell a lot of expensive to stuff to a lot of gullible people!
If you want extreme silliness look on Google for Peter Belt (PWB) - He'll have you sticking silver dots to your door frames! Kidding? - Have a look! Daz

 

[Geordie Spark]

My hearing is shot. I could tell the difference.

Pardon ?? :rolleyes2:

 

[ultinator]

I always assumed the gold plating was for, effectively corrosion resistance - as opposed to a significant change in sound quality/clarity? Also without trying this myself is there really any noticeable difference with larger cables, as long as they can carry the current through to the speakers then why bother. If it does then bring out the tails....

 

[DPG]

I know people who swear by expensive cables, both speaker and mains leads. I can't tell the difference personally, but I've not got particularly sensistive hearing. The only way to beb sure for yourself is do a blind A/B test, maybe at a hi-fi dealers - repeat it a few times and see if you can get consistent results, then there's your answer.
Just be careful, cos some of them will try and sell you £200 mains leads and £100 13A plugs aswell. The only way to go after that is have your ring main, supply cables, pylons and substations upgraded and gold plated eh! Call me cynical but... Daz

 

[Golden_Boy]

Oxygen free copper is the only way to go...

Some folk acually beleive this twaddle
So Can someone please explain in VERY technical language why this is so ???
Dont hold back. we are all agog, just waiting for the explanation...

 

[ultinator]

I bet the people with expensive set-ups would never let you hear it and voluntarily say - 'wow thats amazing sound, how do you do it?' they would probably be more inclined to show you their massive cable and brag about it 'till the cows come home.

 

[vjsmarwick]

I went to a house once and it was a retired sound tech from the BBC he had a stereo rigged up on spikes for feet on the stereo and speakers 4mm gold plated speaker wire and he claimed he could tell the difference if it wasn't it was all in a room with sound proofing on the walls and no windows. All very professionally done must have cost loads he said the stereo system was like £15000 and he had been adding to it ever since he had started with the BBC. My only problem with the whole set up was the fact i was there to install a fan for ventilation i could even hear it running so pointless having such an expensive set up.

 

[Engineer54]

For anyone over 50 and in many cases a lot younger, your hearing frequencies especially at the extremities, are diminishing fast, more so at the lower end and above 20K at the top end. So it's highly unlikely that you can hear the full range of any Hi Fi system. Never did see the point of paying those totally silly prices for speaker cables. I've always been into Hi Fi, and later Home Cinema, and have noticed myself that records or disks just don't seem to sound as good as i remember they once did!! lol!!

 

[SYKRAPS]

SKYRAPS, how come you put a 'like' on dim_bulbs comment, but not on my original answer to your question ?? Extra-white Daz

It made me giggle cos of the adverts but I have thanked you now fella.............

 

[SYKRAPS]

Are you sure its not a 100v music/pa system your looking at....??????

It is playing background mellow eastern tunes in an indian restaurant running from a 2nd hand cd player

 

[Silly Sausage]

Oxygen free copper is the only way to go...

Some folk acually beleive this twaddle
So Can someone please explain in VERY technical language why this is so ???
Dont hold back. we are all agog, just waiting for the explanation...

I've absolutely no idea mate!
It's what some HiFi pseudo told me once.
Hence the grin.
I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a cheap & expensive cable with my hearing.

 

[Engineer54]

Originally Posted by Golden_Boy
Some folk acually beleive this twaddle
So Can someone please explain in VERY technical language why this is so ???
Dont hold back. we are all agog, just waiting for the explanation...



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You'll get all the technical jargon you could ever wish for, from the cable manufacturers, as to why oxygen free copper speakers cable has better frequency response. Whether you will be able to actually hear the difference in that heightened response is another matter... lol!!

I still believe it's the nuances within a good recording and play back, that make the difference, but again it all comes down to the individuals ability to hear/distinguish those frequencies.

 

[SYKRAPS]

You'll get all the technical jargon you could ever wish for, from the cable manufacturers, as to why oxygen free copper speakers cable has better frequency response. Whether you will be able to actually hear the difference in that heightened response is another matter... lol!!

I still believe it's the nuances within a good recording and play back, that make the difference, but again it all comes down to the individuals ability to hear/distinguish those frequencies.

And when you go to an Indian restaurant it is for the food not the diabolical music.............

 

[tazz]

Brings me back to my oridginal comment on 100v system.......have installed 3kw VA/PA systems in shopping centres and on London underground...and some of the systems from the likes of Baldwin Booxhall are like HD for the music guros on here...and guess what there wired in 2.5mm FP200 cable

 

[Engineer54]

I don't eat Indian, so never go to Indian restaurants!! lol!! Even if i did, i wouldn't be able to put up with music or the cat's singing for very long!! lol!!

 

[SYKRAPS]

I don't eat Indian, so never go to Indian restaurants!! lol!! Even if i did, i wouldn't be able to put up with music or the cat's singing for very long!! lol!!

You should be used to a bit of cat living in China lol..........or is it dog they eat?