Still fitting plastic ??

[davesparks]

Appreciate your interpretation but that's deffo not what it states.
What it states, word for word is,

NOTE 2: The implementation date for this regulation is the 1st January 2016, but does not preclude compliance with the regulation prior to that date.

And that's the problem, ask different people how they would interpret, and like you they will come up with there version.
Not your fault or anyone else's but I take issue with a statement that's based on regulations that's unclear and appears to contradict itself.
Whole ruddy Idea is a half thought out shambles, that fails to address the real problem any way.

There's nothing to misinterpret in that particular statement.
The regulation comes in to effect on that date, but that doesn't preclude compliance beforehand.
What is there to misinterpret?
It is required after that date but may be complied with before that date

 

[Risteard]

Appreciate your interpretation but that's deffo not what it states.
What it states, word for word is,

But what I have stated is precisely what "does not preclude" means. The Regulation is not intended to prevent you complying with it earlier. (This does not mean that you must comply earlier.)

 

[stevethesparks]

If your concerned about future sparks reviewing your cert' you could always put a comment in regarding the specific regulation 421.1.201 does not take effect until 1/1/16 and has been excluded from the design/inspection/cert etc'. As its not a departure as such because the regulation isn't in force yet then it doesn't rightly belong in the section of the same heading - but it won't hurt anyone to put it in there for clarity of the exclusion of the regulation.

Its always a good idea to cover ourselves with such notes, but could backfire with a customer who will insist that we should have installed something that would not have become non-compliant in 6 months. With this in mind I would not put any such notes.

 

[Darkwood]

Its always a good idea to cover ourselves with such notes, but could backfire with a customer who will insist that we should have installed something that would not have become non-compliant in 6 months. With this in mind I would not put any such notes.

Not if you liaise correctly with the customer, any customer having a plastic board fitted this year should have had a briefing from the Electrician at the options as is good professional business practice.

 

[baldsparkies]

And I was thinking preclude meant;

prevent, make it impossible for, make it impracticable for, rule out, put a stop to, stop, prohibit, debar, interdict, block, bar, hinder, impede, inhibit,exclude, disqualify, forbid; estop :dunce:

 

[Risteard]

Exactly. Like I said, you are not prohibited from complying earlier than the 1st January. This does not mean that you are required to do so.

And I was thinking preclude meant;

prevent, make it impossible for, make it impracticable for, rule out, put a stop to, stop, prohibit, debar, interdict, block, bar, hinder, impede, inhibit,exclude, disqualify, forbid; estop :dunce:

 

[stevethesparks]

Not if you liaise correctly with the customer, any customer having a plastic board fitted this year should have had a briefing from the Electrician at the options as is good professional business practice.

Fair Comment

 

[davesparks]

And I was thinking preclude meant;

prevent, make it impossible for, make it impracticable for, rule out, put a stop to, stop, prohibit, debar, interdict, block, bar, hinder, impede, inhibit,exclude, disqualify, forbid; estop :dunce:

Yes it does, so you could rewrite the note with the word preclude substituted with prevent

NOTE 2: The implementation date for this regulation is the 1st January 2016, but does not prevent compliance with the regulation prior to that date.

 

[baldsparkies]

Yes it does, so you could rewrite the note with the word preclude substituted with prevent

NOTE 2: The implementation date for this regulation is the 1st January 2016, but does not prevent compliance with the regulation prior to that date.

post 3 of this thread.

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...rum/103752-amendment-3-condition-reports.html

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