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So over the past few years we have seen the demise of 8 foot fluorescent tubes,50 watt halogen bulbs,500 watt floodlights and making tv standby power even more tiny.
This seems to pale into insignificance when electric cars are needing at least 7kw for 8 hours.
Now I don't know about you but when I'm in the shower for 10 minutes I'm thinking this is costing me a bit at 8.5 kw.So to leave 7kw on for 8 hours is madness.It makes a joke of all the energy savings over the past few years.What do you guys think?

 
Agree, along with horse boxes. If people like horses so much why don't they ride them across fields rather than putting them in tin boxes and driving on roads really slowly!
costs 'em a fortune to shoe them nags every few weeks. why wear out a set of perfectly good shoes by walking on them. that is left to our good wives/GFs who only break them because they seen some others they want...."Honey, my shoes are worn out and I've had the ages ( 2 weeks) please can you give me £200 for some new ones".

"Sod off . Good pair of Snickers toecaps at screwfix for £50".
 
Top Gear had the right idea with caravans a few years back.
You mean when they used to do real vehicle reviews with Tiff Needel and Quentin Wilson.... They actually told you what was a good car at towing, for example.... Before the days of Jeremy, James and the accident prone one seeing what was the best way to make one explode!

If youre going to villify the noble art of towing caravans for being a little slow, but safe... then lets have a go at cyclists, tractor drivers and the hell spawn that is Audi Driver!

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You mean when they used to do real vehicle reviews with Tiff Needel and Quentin Wilson.... They actually told you what was a good car at towing, for example.... Before the days of Jeremy, James and the accident prone one seeing what was the best way to make one explode!

If youre going to villify the noble art of towing caravans for being a little slow, but safe... then lets have a go at cyclists, tractor drivers and the hell spawn that is Audi Driver!

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A large reason for antipathy towards caravan owners is that they generally to take to the roads at busy times and hold up traffic for no reason other than their own pleasure. Tractors drivers tend to be going about their business and, while it's no pleasure being stuck in a queue behind one, at least they contribute something to society while going about their business of inconveniencing people.

Cyclists... well I guess a few are commuting but, yeah, I'd stick most of them inside caravans (along with Audi drivers) and hand them to the Top Gear team ?



*I used to be a cyclist and hated the attitudes of many cyclists towards other road users.
 
Ah, now theres a thing.... It may be the drivers pleasure, but they are travelling to a caravan site which is someone elses business... so they are important to the economy in some form... (although not as much as a farmer per se)

When I was a kid, our family holidays involved loading up a caravan, crossing the Irish Sea and driving half the length of GB. As such I have good reason for disliking them ?
 
There are good and bad drivers of all marques.

I suggest that any who are prejudiced against others on the basis of what they drive are very likely to be so blind to their own shortcomings as to put them firmly in the second category.
 
There are good and bad drivers of all marques.

I suggest that any who are prejudiced against others on the basis of what they drive are very likely to be so blind to their own shortcomings as to put them firmly in the second category.

I wouldn't take comments in this thread literally or personally.
 
I used to be an Audi driver, 2.5v6 A4, and I never held up traffic until it died on the Bridgewater sliproad on the M5 ? I knew how to use indicators too. Now I drive a Volvo. Don't have a smoking jacket and a pipe yet though.
 
I apologise wholeheartedly for my unwarranted suggestions of Audi drivers.

I myself tow a caravan for my own pleasure occasionally at the safe, legal speed limit.

Do I care if I’m holding someone up? No... because I know I’m driving properly.

I do care, however, when some impatient fool overtakes at 90, with something coming the other way.
 
As for "literally", I believe that prejudice and unthinking generalisations are unhelpful.

As someone who spent childhood holidays in a caravan and who used to cycle several hundred miles each week, I'm reasonably well placed to make tongue in cheek comments about either group.

Never having owned an Audi, I should apologise for suggesting that a motoring show might be the best place for their owners.

*For any kitchen fitters or plumbers reading this forum, I'd like to distance myself from any derogatory commentary that has been posted about your (or other) trades ?
 
What is it about trades people and BMW drivers, I can't think they are all jealous, but perhaps they are.

I think it's more a numbers thing. At one point many years ago, BMWs were comparatively rare compared to the more main stream brands. Then they started outselling the Mondeo and so became much more common on the roads. So just by quantities alone, you are statistically more likely to see a BMW doing something wrong than most other makes, as they are more common.

I don't think it's anything to do with the type of driver who drives them.
 
here is a typicla indicator stalk in a BMW
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You mean when they used to do real vehicle reviews with Tiff Needel and Quentin Wilson.... They actually told you what was a good car at towing, for example.... Before the days of Jeremy, James and the accident prone one seeing what was the best way to make one explode!

If youre going to villify the noble art of towing caravans for being a little slow, but safe... then lets have a go at cyclists, tractor drivers and the hell spawn that is Audi Driver!

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Is this an admission to owning a caravan? ?
 
Nothing wrong with owning a caravan, as long as you have the car to tow it and the skills to drive it.
Can't beat the sense of freedom that comes with caravan holidays, moving all over Western Europe at will.
Not so keen on it in the UK, though, since this country's idea of a caravan site seems to be an open field to line them up in, and coin slots to pay extra for everything.
 
Nothing wrong with owning a caravan, as long as you have the car to tow it and the skills to drive it.
Can't beat the sense of freedom that comes with caravan holidays, moving all over Western Europe at will.
Not so keen on it in the UK, though, since this country's idea of a caravan site seems to be an open field to line them up in, and coin slots to pay extra for everything.

That's straight out of the caravan episode of The Inbetweeners! ?
 
Is this an admission to owning a caravan? ?
No... #72 was my admission to owning one, although I might have mentioned it on other threads.
I also mentioned elsewhere I was manager on a caravan park for 10 years before going self employed. And earlier this year the new owners burned down the reception/ bar building.
not proven. I could be done for malicious slander saying that.
 
I still prefer a motohome. Just park up, turn the gas on and your done. Could be a pain just to nip to the shop for a pint of milk though. I used to enjoy a drive up to the highlands, stop off in the Lakes on the way, and wild camp.
 
I still prefer a motohome. Just park up, turn the gas on and your done. Could be a pain just to nip to the shop for a pint of milk though. I used to enjoy a drive up to the highlands, stop off in the Lakes on the way, and wild camp.

Pros and cons of both. I know two couples that switch between caravans and motor homes quite often because they can't decide which is best.
 
As someone who spent childhood holidays in a caravan and who used to cycle several hundred miles each week, I'm reasonably well placed to make tongue in cheek comments about either group.

Never having owned an Audi, I should apologise for suggesting that a motoring show might be the best place for their owners.

*For any kitchen fitters or plumbers reading this forum, I'd like to distance myself from any derogatory commentary that has been posted about your (or other) trades ?
Yon Kipper is not until September.
 
Pros and cons of both. I know two couples that switch between caravans and motor homes quite often because they can't decide which is best.
A debate I've had with myself a few times, but I've always just come out on the side of the caravan.
No road tax, insurance or MOT test and cheaper to buy in the first place.
More interior space, unless you're going for a giant US type RV.
Surprisingly, caravan is cheaper than motorhome to take on a cross channel ferry. Always book with 'caravans go free' special offers, so the price is determined by the car only. Motorhome would be more expensive.
Once parked up on site, I have a car to drive around in rather than a large van.
Since I fitted the motor mover, it's nearly as quick and easy to move to a new spot with the 'van as it would be with a motorhome.
 

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