18th edition surge protection

[Tetris1985]

Hi,
School premisses officer here, wanting some advice.

Each year we have to have a fixed wiring test on the 6 circuits 3 lighting, 3 power on our swimming pool area. Fed from a 3 phase board.

I follow the regs a bit and have a keen interest

Due to budgeting I wanted to know if when we get our fixed wiring test we would need to have surge protection installed as well as the other checks,as per the 18th or is it just for new installations

 

[bill01803]

The regs are NOT retrospective

 

[fairlight]

The report may recommend the provision of SP in accordance with the current version of Bs7671, but it will not be a requirement for an existing installation to be deemed satisfactory.

 

[buzzlightyear]

it depends on the location of the property and property in the regulation it shows maps where likely where SPD required.

 

[fairlight]

The regs are NOT retrospective

The regs are selectively retrospective, there was a time where no RCD protection was required for an external socket outlet, it would be coded as potentially dangerous today.
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it depends on the location of the property and property in the regulation it shows maps where likely where SPD required.

In order to be required it would have to attract at least a code 2 on an EICR. It is not reasonable that lack of SP on an install that complied at the time of installation could be considered potentially dangerous.
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I wonder why the OP is having an EICR annually, a 5 year interval would normally be applied.

 

[Tetris1985]

Thank you everyone that makes me feel better as we are stretched pretty thing right now...

it’s a school.

I seem to remember we had to have a load of rcd protection installed before our last 5 year fixed wiring test, on the older part of the school, would that of just been a recommendation as well

 

[mattg4321]

Fitting RCD protection to socket outlets in a school should be an absolute bare minimum in my opinion. Sadly not what I've come across recently though!

 

[fairlight]

Thank you everyone that makes me feel better as we are stretched pretty thing right now...

it’s a school.

I seem to remember we had to have a load of rcd protection installed before our last 5 year fixed wiring test, on the older part of the school, would that of just been a recommendation as well

RCD protection is now pretty much mandatory for socket outlets intended for general use, there are few cases where lack of RCD protection to sockets would be 'let go' on an EICR so to speak.

 

[Tetris1985]

RCD protection is now pretty much mandatory for socket outlets intended for general use, there are few cases where lack of RCD protection to sockets would be 'let go' on an EICR so to speak.

Ah so that’s why we had to add so many rcd or rcbos....so what makes rcd protection retrospective?

But in respect to surge protection we should be okay

 

[buzzlightyear]

But in respect to surge protection we should be okay

I would be recommended to install SPD if you have PCs .

 

[Tetris1985]

I would be recommended to install SPD if you have PCs .

Thank you

The regs are selectively retrospective, there was a time where no RCD protection was required for an external socket outlet, it would be coded as potentially dangerous today.
[automerge]1569590665[/automerge]

In order to be required it would have to attract at least a code 2 on an EICR. It is not reasonable that lack of SP on an install that complied at the time of installation could be considered potentially dangerous.
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I wonder why the OP is having an EICR annually, a 5 year interval would normally be applied.

its just required by our insurance for circuits that are part of the swimming pool area

 

[bill01803]

Swimming pool area only 1 year EICR the rest down to the recommended test period by previous reports.

 

[Midwest]

I'm curious why yo have socket outlets, in your swimming pool area?

 

[buzzlightyear]

Sorry Midwest the op did not say about sockets , it was mattg4321 he said it about it

 

[Midwest]

My mistake. 3 words thing