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Your description is a bit non specific. Can you show a pic or state a specific isolator.
 
I'd like a view of it before commenting, too.
Although, it seems like a switch that can accommodate different supplies...as most 3 phase switches do.
ie, some machines don't require a neutral......but then again WTF is it feeding?
 
We also often see a 4 pole isolator that has a neutral and earth bar internally as well. It's just to acommodate different wiring options with switched or unswitched neutrals as far as I know.
 
We also often see a 4 pole isolator that has a neutral and earth bar internally as well. It's just to acommodate different wiring options with switched or unswitched neutrals as far as I know.
Reminds me of one job where we used a 4 pole isolator for a large motor. 3 poles for the motor and the 4th for the cooling fan, with the fan neutral unswitched.
 
3PhaseIsolator.jpg

Hey i took a picture.

The supply eventually came into L1 L2 and L3, and the N on the right hand side of the device. But there's still the metal N bar on the right. Just wondering at what configuration you would put the neutral in there instead of into the switch.

They are feeding welding machines.
 
As above, looks like a standard enclosure that the manufacturer could use for everything from single to six-pole isolators. Yours clearly started life as a 3-pole, with the 4th tacked on. I can think of at least 3 scenarios where your neutral would not go through that pole, from isolator feedback to forced air cooling to switching the armature and field of a DC motor. I think you might be getting a bit hung up on this 'extra unneeded neutral bar'. It likely adds about 10p to the cost of the isolator, so use it or don't as appropriate.
 
As above, looks like a standard enclosure that the manufacturer could use for everything from single to six-pole isolators. Yours clearly started life as a 3-pole, with the 4th tacked on. I can think of at least 3 scenarios where your neutral would not go through that pole, from isolator feedback to forced air cooling to switching the armature and field of a DC motor. I think you might be getting a bit hung up on this 'extra unneeded neutral bar'. It likely adds about 10p to the cost of the isolator, so use it or don't as appropriate.
I'm a trainee so was just wondering why it was there.
 

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