best way of connecting

[thekingiam]

trying to join new cable to existing cable 1.5 twin, will be located under floor boards what would you recomend.i would usualy use junction boxes but as using it for passing elecsa wondered what you thought.
was going to buy crimper from elecfix as they had one on offer for about 7 quid but none in stock don,t fancy there alternative for 30 ish and can get cheaper on ebay later.

 

[kingeri]

Crimping is an option, or use an ashley / hager j803 juncton box, or the new Line maintenance free enclosures

 

[Octopus]

Google Hager Ashley MF JB 803 or 804 . The best way of jointing inaccessible cables and complying with the regs

 

[Knobhead]

Don’t be a cheapskate with crimpers either, get a decent ratchet set.

 

[thekingiam]

they don't sell them at electricfix. want the job done in the next hour or so. only chock box or junction boxes? any comply with regs i might hve some wagos in car but no box would i need a box?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

i think the jury`s still out on wago`s...maintainance free or not....i mean, where is this?..in a kitchen?...if so you can joint it under the units...can you get the old cable to a cupboard?...and joint it there?....can you not create an access hatch in order to get to it for inspection/maintinence purposes?...if so you could use an ordinary joint box....

 

[Knobhead]

they don't sell them at electricfix. want the job done in the next hour or so. only chock box or junction boxes? any comply with regs i might hve some wagos in car but no box would i need a box?[/QUOTE]

Yes...

 

[thekingiam]

should i drive around to try and find someone that sells these boxes?

 

[thekingiam]

its in a bedroom under floorboards

 

[Octopus]

its in a bedroom under floorboards

Ashley Hager 803 is the ideal product - if you can't get one for today, make sure you pick up a couple for your stock as you'll need them sooner or later.

 

[Plonker 3]

Ashley Hager 803 is the ideal product

These are the best type, they can even see into the future.

Hager / Ashley J803 Brewtime - Online Electrical Wholesaler

 

[truckster]

Can you pull the cables up above the skirting board? You could use a 1g box and blank plate with connectors to mae the joint and still comply

 

[LineProducts]

Google Hager Ashley MF JB 803 or 804 . The best way of jointing inaccessible cables and complying with the regs

Have a look at the LINE enclosure with the MF connector. BS 5733 MF compliant. Follow this link to the FORUMSHOP or see this thread...http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...3-maintenance-free-mf-kit-junction-boxes.html

If you let me know before 16h00 I can have one with you by tomorrow.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

i assume its a lighting circuit?...downstairs lighting?...if so then if you can get it to a downstairs ceiling rose....joint it in there....as long as its the same circuit then you should comply....just make a note of it....

 

[StuSpiers]

I was speaking to my elecsa assessor yesterday about the hager/mf joint boxes.

They probably wouldn't fail you but you certainly wouldn't tick any boxes.

He was of the opinion that to truly comply with the regs ALL joints should be accessible.

It may be dinosaur thinking but that dinosaur is doing your assessment NOT you.

To be honest if you are really considering choc box I think you have bigger concerns....

 

[LineProducts]

I was speaking to my elecsa assessor yesterday about the hager/mf joint boxes.

They probably wouldn't fail you but you certainly wouldn't tick any boxes.

He was of the opinion that to truly comply with the regs ALL joints should be accessible.

It may be dinosaur thinking but that dinosaur is doing your assessment NOT you.

To be honest if you are really considering choc box I think you have bigger concerns....

Until 31 Dec 2011 he may have had a point but in amendment 1 its in black and white: 526.3 vi pg 131

 

[StuSpiers]

Yup,

It just takes time to filter through as of yesterday it hasn't.

I would use them if there wasn't any other choice.

That isn't because I am being stuck in my ways it's just a hell of a lot cheaper to use conventional joints that are accessible so long as the labour isn't excessive.

Regardless all joints defiantly need a box

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Yup,

It just takes time to filter through as of yesterday it hasn't.

I would use them if there wasn't any other choice.

That isn't because I am being stuck in my ways it's just a hell of a lot cheaper to use conventional joints that are accessible so long as the labour isn't excessive.

Regardless all joints defiantly need a box

of course they need box....its barriers n enclosures isn`t it...

 

[Octopus]

Until 31 Dec 2011 he may have had a point but in amendment 1 its in black and white: 526.3 vi pg 131

The word "accessible" has been debated on here a number of times and many think it means that under a carpet, under underlay, beneath nailed down floorboards is accessible.

NB: I don't think this is accessible!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

The word "accessible" has been debated on here a number of times and many think it means that under a carpet, under underlay, beneath nailed down floorboards is accessible.

NB: I don't think this is accessible!

100% agreed here murdoch....accessable should meen accessable without the use of tools other than to gain entry to the enclosure....i cant see what some find hard about this...