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Yes you make a good point, I use them because I can have them on my van and they can go any where but if and when they fail it is a pain.

 

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Personally I'd talk the customer into having fire rated cans with separate LED lamps. Those look like JCC but it doesn't matter which make I've used previously, JCC, Robus, Haler; I've often had to go back and replace the complete unit where they've failed.

Recently JCC sent one of my customers 70+ new downlights as he'd had a continual trend of them failing is one's and two's over the 2 years since they've been fitted. It's alright the manufacturer putting a 5, 7, 10 year guarantee on the actual fitting, but it doesn't cover the electricians time to pick up a replacement, fit it, take the failed unit back to the supplier etc. that either the customer or the electrician has to cover.

At least with separate lamps, the customer can replace them himself and not have those additional, ongoing costs.

Agree, almost totally. Fire rated can's not needed too often though.

The other trouble with the dedicated LED unit I found is they are updating them so quick (Aurora used to be hectic for updating and discontinuing old lines) is that even if they fail within a few months, you can't get the same bloody unit so the replacement would look different.

I recently fitted some Fitzgerald LED Panels that have a 5 year ON SITE warranty. Now that is a manufacturer that is confident in there product.