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mattg4321

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You’ve got to have a thick skin to work in construction generally and especially so to put your work up for scrutiny online. Chris doesn’t seem to have a very thick skin though!

Thought it was fairly obvious westwards post was tongue in cheek.
 

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For him to say use ad blockers he doesn't care, is against adsense and can get his account banned so no income.

Everybody report him to adsense. Ill add the link to my post within a few days.
 

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My bad that one was meant to be building site humour.
I'm deeply ashamed to be part of the Electricians Forums right now.

I mean really.... humour has no place between tradesmen.

I hope that one day we live in a world where tradesmen cannot take the P... out of each other and that instead we gift each other presents of flowers, teddy bears and chocolates.

TBF I also hope I live in a world where Westy can't see the bollox I made of trying to sort out 30 odd year old lighting junction boxes with limited slack.. :D
 
Not sure why he has a beef , his big ole ego clearly getting the best of him...

just for the record I haven‘t said I dislike him, he made that up in his own mind

his vids are ok , nothing special

can’t be arsed to comment further
 
Not sure why he has a beef , his big ole ego clearly getting the best of him...

just for the record I haven‘t said I dislike him, he made that up in his own mind

his vids are ok , nothing special

can’t be arsed to comment further
To be honest I am surprised he used you he should be paying you the amount of promotion you give him on here.
 
We all have our unique writing styles.

What you've written (in your mind) may not come across the same as someone else reads it.

Sometimes you'll even re-read your own stuff later on and it doesn't come across the way you intend it to...I do it all the time...done it on here with one of my first posts :(

One of the major draw backs of written communication is not being able to read peoples expressions, tone of voice, whether they are pounding or typing quietly at the keyboard time, etc... hence very easy to take stuff out of context, but that's world we currently live in.

Guess it's similar to reading a quote in a newspaper/site from a news reel, gives you one view, but when you see the actual news reel you may have a completely different view and also the frame of mind you're in at the time of reading.

Personally, I've got nothing but great respect for folks that do these YouTube vidoes with the amount of intentional and unintentional non-constructive criticism they can get, we are all human and as such need to treat each other with respect...easier said then done...need to look out for each other mental health...times are tough for folks and tensions are high...we all say and do stuff in the heat of the moment.

Hopefully Chris and westward can sleep it on and have no hard feelings in the morning.
 

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I just dont know how guys find the time to make videos, I was far to busy no time to stop, thread a bit of conduit with one arm, eat a sarnie with other. lol ;)
 

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I just dont know how guys find the time to make videos, I was far to busy no time to stop, thread a bit of conduit with one arm, eat a sarnie with other. lol ;)
Neither do I i seem to eat my lunch on a trip to the wholesalers most days. Unless your on a price i can't see the customer being delighted with you walking round taking a video of what your doing and delaying yourself doing it
 

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Neither do I i seem to eat my lunch on a trip to the wholesalers most days. Unless your on a price i can't see the customer being delighted with you walking round taking a video of what your doing and delaying yourself doing it
I enjoy watching alot of these guys videos but the same thought crosses my mind aswell. They obviously have a passion for it but don't know how they fit it in with getting a days work done
 

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I enjoy watching alot of these guys videos but the same thought crosses my mind aswell. They obviously have a passion for it but don't know how they fit it in with getting a days work done
I enjoy them too and I can see it takes a lot of effort and dedication. Fair play for them for putting their work on for the world to sit behind their keyboards and pick faults in as well
 

7029 dave

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I enjoy watching alot of these guys videos but the same thought crosses my mind aswell. They obviously have a passion for it but don't know how they fit it in with getting a days work done
Maybe knock a few hours off the price, just dont know, I do enjoy some BUT if I were the customer I would have the right ache.GET ON WITH IT
 

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ffs, what have i missed now? I can't slate CJR as his videos were one of the content creators that pursuaded me to pursue going down the sparkie route and getting a trade.
 

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I don’t think it’s the content as much as the presenter that’s the problem, if you are offended easily social media platforms probably ain’t for you 😂....
 
the forum is getting slaughtered in the comments on youtube...which is a shame. Only takes one to say something without thinking
 

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This forum has been invaluable to me over my training years and also afterwards. There are and have been members who are not to every ones taste. The world would be a boring place if we was all the same.

I watch CJR's videos (like alot of youtube channels). He has the balls to put his work online and I like the fact he is open to suggestions and knows his limitations (or that's how I perceive it).

IMO the comment about the knife was over the line and not funny. Less has been pulled up over the years iv been on the forums and rightly so.
 

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I just read the 194 comments below the video.
Not one criticises his methods. It makes me think that ANY and ALL negative comments have been somehow deleted by the person that uploaded the vid????

anyone checked if he’s a member of a cps?
 

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Like others, I’ve followed CJR, and picked up a load of useful tips. Like others who video their various installs, I’ve also witnessed a few cringeworthy practices. Just reinforces that we’re all human and no one is perfect especially when a client throws a curve ball which is not achievable in a way that you’d be happy with (regs and safety aside). The great thing is that we are lucky to have access to huge experience on this forum plus the variety of folks on YouTube.
 

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Double socket in a Tupperware box!

give me strength.

ive seen this in practice. EICR at local pub... metalclad single socket in the beer garden, inside a metal biscuit tin, screwed to a wall
 

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And you don't realise that Napit owns it now?
I'm a Stroma member and the brand is still operating. It is now owned by Napit and trades as Stroma installer certification.

I'm in the process of switching to Napit though.
 

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Yep well aware napit owns it...but my membership still has stroma on it...and it was only renewed last week 😁
You're a member of Napit, don't kid yourself. Just like all those Elecsa guy's, they're Niceic. There are only two players out there now. Niceic and Napit.
 

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I'm a Stroma member and the brand is still operating. It is now owned by Napit and trades as Stroma installer certification.

I'm in the process of switching to Napit though.
Same here, I would’ve changed this year but as my membership ran out right at the beginning of lockdown but stroma allowed me to continue notifying I thought it best just to carry on with em for another year.....I also need to move from strima as I can’t write stroma on here with out my phone auto correcting it to @Strima!!! 😂
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You're a member of Napit, don't kid yourself. Just like all those Elecsa guy's, they're Niceic. There are only two players out there now. Niceic and Napit.
My certs have stroma on em and I’m pretty sure I couldn’t put the napit logo my van?.....as with @Andy78 I will be changing proper to napit, but regardless of who owns who my membership is with stroma 😁
 

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You're a member of Napit, don't kid yourself. Just like all those Elecsa guy's, they're Niceic. There are only two players out there now. Niceic and Napit.
No, STROMA is a brand which is owned by NAPIT, ELECSA is a brand owned by certsure who also own NICEIC.

Dewalt, Irwin, Mac tools are all owned by black and decker, but that doesn'tean any tool you buy from them is a black and decker tool.
 

Voltimax

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Same here, I would’ve changed this year but as my membership ran out right at the beginning of lockdown but stroma allowed me to continue notifying I thought it best just to carry on with em for another year.....I also need to move from strima as I can’t write stroma on here with out my phone auto correcting it to @Strima!!! 😂
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My certs have stroma on em and I’m pretty sure I couldn’t put the napit logo my van?.....as with @Andy78 I will be changing proper to napit, but regardless of who owns who my membership is with stroma 😁
No, STROMA is a brand which is owned by NAPIT, ELECSA is a brand owned by certsure who also own NICEIC.

Dewalt, Irwin, Mac tools are all owned by black and decker, but that doesn'tean any tool you buy from them is a black and decker tool.
Not exactly the same comparison. Those tools you mention are products, not services.
It's likely that Stroma members will automatically become Napit in time. Napit didn't acquire Stroma for the electrical scheme. You're correct about certsure though. Napit and Stroma isn't the same though. I have a choice to joining either Nic or Elecsa. No one can join Stroma now as far as I'm aware. Just look online, there isn't an option to join the electrical scheme because it doesn't exist.
Going back to brands though. Crabtree, Wylex, Volex and Marbo are all owned by electrium. All those circuit breakers etc are most definitely the same. The same can be said for Control gear and Lewden. They're the same products.
 

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You are correct they won’t accept any New members but existing members can renew they membership....with all calls being made to stroma
 

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Double socket in a Tupperware box!

give me strength.

ive seen this in practice. EICR at local pub... metalclad single socket in the beer garden, inside a metal biscuit tin, screwed to a wall
as long as the biscuit tin is IP55 or better, what's the problem?
 

Andy-1960

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I think anyone who posts their work on YouTube has to make sure it is perfect or expect flack.
CJR posted a video a while ago where he was wiring up a garden building. He then went back and ripped it all out and did it again as he had obviously had feedback that what he had done was wrong.
Fair play he held his hands up, but why put it on YouTube???
There is a saying “it’s best to keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you’re an idiot than open it and remove all doubt!”
View: https://youtu.be/P_0CKDdxI3w
 

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I agree fair play to him but the situation should never have occurred in the first place. Earthing the armour should be fundamental knowledge.
Haven't seen that video. Was the install done without earthing the armour? A bit worrying. What if nobody had given him the heads up, would it still be like it?
 
Haven't seen that video. Was the install done without earthing the armour? A bit worrying. What if nobody had given him the heads up, would it still be like it?
There was a thread on here about it but can't find it but yes he taped up the armour and I believe he said it is now like NYY.
 

Risteard

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I notice on his latest video that the NICEIC logo doesn't appear on his t-shirt.

I checked the NICEIC website and he is not listed there.

Was he kicked out of the Domestic Installer Scheme?
 
Omg .. just get on with it ,find the fault,charge the customer,this videoing gotta knacker up your day”s work,& costing the customer more.
Your a Electrician not a Stephen Spielberg 😎
 

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So what the hell is his company called!
CJR or HRS?
Why two names?
Is he a electrician or builder?
Too many questions o_O
 

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@Ian1981 thats always been the issue. One of his early videos he was doing an extension and I recall him and a mate fitting steel work. He’s not been registered that long as a DI.
 
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