Faulty outside lights with PIR

[TonyJohnson]

Recently i've fitted 3 outside lights with PIR, next to customers front door and one on my own garage, the £30 to £45 ones from screwfix...they last between a week and 6 months then go faulty... so i have to keep going back... any ideas..

 

[Octopus]

Buy different ones with 3 year warranties from another wholesaler

For Lap read crxp

 

[TonyJohnson]

Buy different ones with 3 year warranties from another wholesaler

For Lap read crxp

 

[TonyJohnson]

To be fair, two are from screwfix and the one i have is from a wholesaler i used to work for... I suppose i was hinting at, is this a common problem with cheap outside lights!!

What does "For Lap read crxp" mean?

 

[telectrix]

To be fair, two are from screwfix and the one i have is from a wholesaler i used to work for... I suppose i was hinting at, is this a common problem with cheap outside lights!!

What does "For Lap read crxp" mean?

he means that , in his opinion, LAP are crap. TBH they're not bad for budget range gear, but the reliability is obviously not as good as someof the better known, more xpensive brands.

having said that, i fitted a 30watt LED flood and PIR at home 2 years ago.higher price range as it was £40+VAT. it packed in last week. the driver is not driving any more. opening it up, the driver was made in China, same as the cheapo versions. these days it's pot luck, whatever brand you go for.

 

[Octopus]

OP - the units you fitted , did they have the cables fitted out of the box or did you have to fit them?

 

[Pete999]

Recently i've fitted 3 outside lights with PIR, next to customers front door and one on my own garage, the £30 to £45 ones from screwfix...they last between a week and 6 months then go faulty... so i have to keep going back... any ideas..

Take em back, get refund and get some decent ones, Lap = shyite

 

[Midwest]

Did I tell you about my decking lights?

 

[Pete999]

Did I tell you about my decking lights?

Noooooooo but you will wont you?

 

[Midwest]

Noooooooo but you will wont you?

They're flipping LAP, two packs in one year. Takes me about two hours to get them out & in. Gonna use candles next time.

 

[Pete999]

They're flipping LAP, two packs in one year. Takes me about two hours to get them out & in. Gonna use candles next time.

Said you would, couldn't resist could you?

 

[Midwest]

This is what I got in mind;

Not sure about the colour. Damn wrong thread. Whatever.

 

[Leesparkykent]

I fitted some LAP barrel lights that a customer supplied, two out of four failed in 12 weeks, I changed them over for some replacements that screwfix gave the customer....All four have now failed after about 6 months. I told the customer £120 + VAT to go change them over again which I think is pointless. I would never supply lap fittings as I would be forever returning to jobs on warranty.

 

[Spoon]

I fitted some LAP barrel lights that a customer supplied, two out of four failed in 12 weeks, I changed them over for some replacements that screwfix gave the customer....All four have now failed after about 6 months. I told the customer £120 + VAT to go change them over again which I think is pointless. I would never supply lap fittings as I would be forever returning to jobs on warranty.

I thought it was frowned upon for you guys to install parts that the customer have bought, for this very reason.

 

[Pete999]

I thought it was frowned upon for you guys to install parts that the customer have bought, for this very reason.

It normally is but the OP would more than likely have got the fittings from screwcarp anyway.

 

[Midwest]

This is one without coconut milk;

Doesn't look tasty, what do ya think?

 

[Octopus]

This is one without coconut milk;

Doesn't look tasty, what do ya think?

Dog food?

 

[Midwest]

Dog food?

Mmmmmhh. Think your right. I replace the coconut milk with a substitute.

 

[Pete999]

This is one without coconut milk;

Doesn't look tasty, what do ya think?

Can't remember eating any thing like that, looks like a pavement pizza on a Friday night.

 

[telectrix]

Dog food?

more like what the dog threw up.

 

[Midwest]

Ok ok. Won't do that one. Just got a supply issue with the coconut milk.

 

[123]

@TonyJohnson is the PIR standalone or part of the fitting? Are they Floodlights?

If Floodlights I would always fit a standalone PIR rather than one integrated in the fitting - have found even with well known brands (Timeguard, Ansell, Aurora/Enlite) the PIR on the fittings is shyte.

 

[telectrix]

This is what I got in mind;

Not sure about the colour. Damn wrong thread. Whatever.

YUK. anorexic fodder. this is Food.

 

[Midwest]

Anybody got any yoghurt?

 

[Midwest]

YUK. anorexic fodder. this is Food.

Where's the ketchup? Can't possibly eat that without ketchup.

 

[Midwest]

Could do a chilli instead?

 

[KEV 1 N]

Wow this threads gone way off! From 3 faulty lights to Chilli!

 

[Midwest]

Wow this threads gone way off! From 3 faulty lights to Chilli!

I blame it on that thing Sparkychick was on about.

 

[Pete999]

I blame it on that thing Sparkychick was on about.

Oi leave SC alone

 

[Spoon]

I blame it on that thing Sparkychick was on about.

It's always the females fault....

 

[telectrix]

Anybody got any yoghurt?

yoghurt???bloody veggie donkey snot.

 

[Midwest]

Do you know what goes in your Tournedos' Rossini, when some arse has drunk all the Madeira

 

[Spoon]

yoghurt???bloody veggie donkey snot.

Is donkey snot vegetarian??...

 

[SparkyChick]

I blame it on that thing Sparkychick was on about.

What???

If it's chilli, I did chilli the other night was out of a jar without beans as my house mate hates red kidney beans. Asda's no beans chilli... as a side dip for nachos and then as main course with rice... was yummy

 

[Midwest]

What???

If it's chilli, I did chilli the other night was out of a jar without beans as my house mate hates red kidney beans. Asda's no beans chilli... as a side dip for nachos and then as main course with rice... was yummy

Ya can't beat a good chilli, with or without beans. I normally use a J. Oliver recipe, which uses pulsed up sun dried tomatoes, along with everything else.

 

[Stufin135]

@TonyJohnson is the PIR standalone or part of the fitting? Are they Floodlights?

If Floodlights I would always fit a standalone PIR rather than one integrated in the fitting - have found even with well known brands (Timeguard, Ansell, Aurora/Enlite) the PIR on the fittings is shyte.

This tends to be the problem from what I've heard. NET LED came and showed us how their floods have separate PIR's that screw into the bottom so they can be easily replaced. They said they found in their failure rates that it was 99% of the time the PIR that had failed and not the flood.

LED Slimline Flood Lights with optional PIR and Photocell - http://www.netledlighting.co.uk/led-lighting/led-slimline-flood-lights/

I have seen this becoming more common with the manufacturers these days. But the only other company I can think definitely do them as well is the Timeguard Pro Range.

 

[Pete999]

Best Chilli I EVER had was in Ottawa, the French Canadian area, the, can't remember the area, but they all spoke like J.C Van Damn, don't know what was in it, how it was cooked, just remember the slow burn in the nether regions, what a brilliant Chilli and Night that was. Can't recall getting back to the Hotel, Best night ever, brilliant people and food, and of course for Tel's sake Beer , no hangover, or shyites, just a warm glow of a good night.